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Post by Gespens Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:07 pm

You know what really sucks?

Getting your monster to rank up, but then you move to the next mission and there are no stone drops.

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Post by GS693 Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:29 pm

Yeah... Igot more stone drops on the low cost missions rather than high

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Post by kyan Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:16 am

Armitaage wrote:Lol, these no skill teams have a 3 combo that adds 20 % atk and 15% def, plus failure to do a significant enough amount of damage results in the defending teams win, making them great for defense. As for the no skill... That can eventually be changed, lol. You know it can. A dea spirit is all they really need, lol. Maybe a venomous breath or two. That's it, lol

What are the 3 bonus? I counted rarity and level. A+ sin demon team routinely hits for 10-14k if opposing don't have -atk, downs or def up. Not sure a 16bp AA+ team can take them. I would be interested in experimenting if it doesn't cost so much to evolve and level them lol. It would make a good team for honor farming maybe.

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Post by GS693 Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:19 am

Rarity, level, race Ithink. Might also have winged?

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Post by kyan Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:24 am

GS693 wrote:Rarity, level, race Ithink. Might also have winged?

you can't get species or winged with rarity and level at this time. Youcan either drop to AA and AA+ mix for winged species or get AA+ and level.

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Post by GS693 Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:28 am

Well my covert team has:

4 rank a+ and one aa+

Combos:

Winged
Species
Guild

So that's three. I could do level if Ididnt max the aa, but that's silly.

I do wonder though, is the stat loss worth having the aa in my team, or should Ijust try another a+? For the 15% attack and 10% def bonus?

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Post by Armitaage Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:54 am

Rarity, level, and BP OF THE MONSTERS. It's not a common combo, but it is actually a possible combo. Given the dragons' def and health (particularly def), with 3 combos it will still take maxed A+ teams two hits to beat them. Failing to knock out 3 in the first turn will be costly to the A+ team, as their max atk at aa+ lvl is not to be sneezed at. Even the mighty balrog barely reaches 8080+. True, the lack of skills will hurt, but with 5 high def monsters, it's not the end of the world, and a cheap skill change spirit will go a long way to fixing that.
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Post by kyan Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:06 am

GS693 wrote:Well my covert team has:

4 rank a+ and one aa+

Combos:

Winged
Species
Guild

So that's three. I could do level if Ididnt max the aa, but that's silly.

I do wonder though, is the stat loss worth having the aa in my team, or should Ijust try another a+? For the 15% attack and 10% def bonus?

you're generally better off with an A+ than just one AA. Try it on the party calculator. It usually takes 2 AA or one AA+ to get even stat.

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Post by kyan Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:13 am

Armitaage wrote:Rarity, level, and BP OF THE MONSTERS. It's not a common combo, but it is actually a possible combo. Given the dragons' def and health (particularly def), with 3 combos it will still take maxed A+ teams two hits to beat them. Failing to knock out 3 in the first turn will be costly to the A+ team, as their max atk at aa+ lvl is not to be sneezed at. Even the mighty balrog barely reaches 8080+. True, the lack of skills will hurt, but with 5 high def monsters, it's not the end of the world, and a cheap skill change spirit will go a long way to fixing that.

You're right totally forgot about bp. Its so rare. Only time I ever use it was on a bp 1 team lol. Since it takes ~35-40ep to evolve and max level a AA+. That teams is going to cost ~200-230ep to build which is more expensive than just about any A+ team except for teams with madflame, vic and maybe selene so it being better than the A+ team is I suppose justifiable. Most people who have the resource to evolve and level them will opt for better AA+ to do it with though I'm seeing a few of these max level guys on the market now.

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Post by GS693 Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:30 am

All same skill teams also get bonuses. Probably only viable with crit or preemptive though, Ibet.

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Post by kyan Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:00 am

GS693 wrote:All same skill teams also get bonuses. Probably only viable with crit or preemptive though, Ibet.

That's a legacy bonus. Before skill leveling appears, skills can stack so it was a legitimate option. After skill leveling and non stacking passive skills its not really viable.

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Post by GS693 Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:09 am

Still. Assume you have a skill spirit for anything, and can use any stack.

What's the maximum possible set of combos?

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Post by kyan Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:17 am

GS693 wrote:Still. Assume you have a skill spirit for anything, and can use any stack.

What's the maximum possible set of combos?

Well I think 6/8. Winged skill specie level rarity and guild. Don't think you can get bp with either winged or guild. Maybe possible with B/B+ team. don't have enough info on which of those are winged and legendary doesn't fit any specie and guild.

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Post by lasthuhu Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:23 am

never underestimate a+ team's potential

I use sin demon team a+ beat tons of 5 aa+ team(not 16 one)

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Post by General Osf Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:51 pm

I have prog+ and i had been seeing the bonus you get for the new event (Green bar), but once my monster is at rank A i don't see a boost, not even a hint of green... I see the bar advancing the same whether i have a prog+ or not.
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Post by faithnomorex Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:39 pm

Here's some math, if anyone is interested.

Somebody said it took them 35 EP to get to the AA, with a prog+ and 800 energy. So depending on luck, I'm assuming it will take 25k-30k energy.

So for those of us not planning on using potions, we get around 600 energy per day. So excluding leveling up, through the course of the event we can expect to have had access to somewhere between 3k-5k energy.

So not even close, and that isn't even accounting for a lack of a prog monster.

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Post by General Osf Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:04 pm

faithnomorex wrote:Here's some math, if anyone is interested.

Somebody said it took them 35 EP to get to the AA, with a prog+ and 800 energy. So depending on luck, I'm assuming it will take 25k-30k energy.

So for those of us not planning on using potions, we get around 600 energy per day. So excluding leveling up, through the course of the event we can expect to have had access to somewhere between 3k-5k energy.

So not even close, and that isn't even accounting for a lack of a prog monster.

Thanks for the info... I was wondering one thing: Let's just say that i had two covert accounts and that at the end of event i got A monster from each. Could I sacrifice them to evolve to A+?
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Post by faithnomorex Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:26 pm

General Osf wrote:Thanks for the info... I was wondering one thing: Let's just say that i had two covert accounts and that at the end of event i got A monster from each. Could I sacrifice them to evolve to A+?

I would assume that you can. I don't think the event mechanics would have an effect on the normal behavior of the monsters after the event. It would be pretty confusing if these were the only A monsters that you couldn't evolve to A+ by sacrificing one to another.

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Post by General Osf Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:03 pm

faithnomorex wrote:
General Osf wrote:Thanks for the info... I was wondering one thing: Let's just say that i had two covert accounts and that at the end of event i got A monster from each. Could I sacrifice them to evolve to A+?

I would assume that you can. I don't think the event mechanics would have an effect on the normal behavior of the monsters after the event. It would be pretty confusing if these were the only A monsters that you couldn't evolve to A+ by sacrificing one to another.

Yeah true, for some reason I thought they couldn't be evolved... That would suck big time.
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Post by blah Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:08 pm

lasthuhu wrote:never underestimate a+ team's potential

I use sin demon team a+ beat tons of 5 aa+ team(not 16 one)

Don't overestimate an A+ team's potential either. Judging from the hp's of most of the AA monsters I face, they are heavily underleveled. A maxed AA+ team will probably crush the standard A+ team any day. Their attack can be essentially twice as high as yours, and their hp will easily prevent one hit KO's.

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Post by kyan Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:16 pm

lasthuhu wrote:never underestimate a+ team's potential

I use sin demon team a+ beat tons of 5 aa+ team(not 16 one)

Just out of curiosity what team are you running that can beat 5aa+ max team(not 16bp)?

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Post by ryesteve Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:15 pm

lasthuhu wrote:never underestimate a+ team's potential

I use sin demon team a+ beat tons of 5 aa+ team(not 16 one)
If that's true, you're beating people who haven't leveled them yet

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Post by silentsong Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:32 pm

Yeah. New people add the new AAs to their formations and get crushed cuz their growth really sucks at first.

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Post by silentsong Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:33 pm

but... this event is so boring


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Post by Sionzris Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:42 pm

silentsong wrote:but... this event is so boring


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