Re: New Event Training AA Monsters

by **faithnomorex** Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:43 pm

Is anyone else excited about the fact that this event is only a week? I personally feel like the two week events really start to drag half way into the second week...

by **General Osf** Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:08 pm

Looks like i will be baby sitting for a week.

by **Horg** Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:13 pm

lol well...Covert and Psycho are beasts, sin is wyrm...Bad news...the A+ is in fact better than the AA+....awesome, thanks A-Team

by **LeadWing85** Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:31 pm

faithnomorex wrote:Is anyone else excited about the fact that this event is only a week? I personally feel like the two week events really start to drag half way into the second week...

i agree, i get the usual "im-rdy-for-next-event-blues" about mid event, even the new added event just doesnt do much to respark my interest lol

i think 1 week is prime for most events, maybe some like battle tourneys stay 2 weeks. thats just IMO

by **LeadWing85** Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:32 pm

Horg wrote:lol well...Covert and Psycho are beasts, sin is wyrm...Bad news...the A+ is in fact better than the AA+....awesome, thanks A-Team

seriously? :/

by **Armitaage** Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:31 am

Lol, if you use bp cost as a measure of good or bad, yeah, lol. But a wyrm AA of 16 bp for sin actually makes me a little happy, as it is a step closer to a 80 bp 5-6x combo team, lol

by **faithnomorex** Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:42 am

Armitaage wrote:Lol, if you use bp cost as a measure of good or bad, yeah, lol. But a wyrm AA of 16 bp for sin actually makes me a little happy, as it is a step closer to a 80 bp 5-6x combo team, lol

That being said... Is there any particular reason all of these are 16 BP? I understand they are supposed to be "weaker" AAs, but 17-20 BP and no skill would certainly fit this bill.

by **Horg** Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:43 am

I'm still missing the part where a 80 BP AA+ no skills team is any use? The 20 BP with Demon down is infinitely more useful, a 16 BP AA+ isn't even worth breaking the rarity or level bonus.

by **Armitaage** Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:46 am

Lol, nothing short of a "proper" AA/+ team will beat it, at least not easily. All the 16 bp AA have pretty high def/hp for their bp, a+ teams will have a hard time with them

by **Swatnoodle** Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:22 am

A= team with agility would probably dump on these 16 AA+ bp teams.

by **Armitaage** Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:34 am

Agility is all fine and well, but the only A+ monster whose atk comes anywhere near these giys' def is balrog+, lol. Only things that might be a problem are mad flame, vic, and donner, lol. And maybe beelz. Nothing else has any hope of 1 shorting any monsters on this team.

by **Swatnoodle** Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:36 am

Well, added in increase party attack, decrease enemy defense, or increase team defense, it would be really tough for an no skill team to win.

by **Armitaage** Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:57 am

Lol, these no skill teams have a 3 combo that adds 20 % atk and 15% def, plus failure to do a significant enough amount of damage results in the defending teams win, making them great for defense. As for the no skill... That can eventually be changed, lol. You know it can. A dea spirit is all they really need, lol. Maybe a venomous breath or two. That's it, lol

by **faithnomorex** Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:06 am

Up to C+ already... and didn't even use a Progression Monster. This event is too easy... Rolling Eyes

by **blah** Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:18 am

faithnomorex wrote:Up to C+ already... and didn't even use a Progression Monster. This event is too easy...

Not quite... the jump from C+ to B is going to be a lot harder than the one from C to C+. It took 5? stones to get it to C+, it's going to take ~20 to get it to B

by **faithnomorex** Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:22 am

blah wrote:
faithnomorex wrote:Up to C+ already... and didn't even use a Progression Monster. This event is too easy...

Not quite... the jump from C+ to B is going to be a lot harder than the one from C to C+. It took 5? stones to get it to C+, it's going to take ~20 to get it to B

It took me 3 stones to get to C+ I believe. The value of each stone should depend on several factors (i.e. energy cost of mission, number of allies, progression monsters). I think that's how it works at least.

by **chaosknight** Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:45 am

yes... from C+ to B isn't easy at all.
Took me around 20 stones to get there.
I wonder how many stones will needed for B to B+ and go on...

by **kristova** Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:18 am

I am doing from A to A+. i am using a prog mon and it is still insanely hard!!!

by **lasthuhu** Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:25 am

hi kristova can u tell me how prog monster raised the effect

and the ep u spend in c to a+ total

by **kristova** Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:45 am

i havent counted the eps i had spent but likely to be 6-7 from C to A.

the prog speeds up the whole process of evolving by 30%(i estimated).

by **silentsong** Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:54 am

faithnomorex wrote:
blah wrote:
faithnomorex wrote:Up to C+ already... and didn't even use a Progression Monster. This event is too easy...

Not quite... the jump from C+ to B is going to be a lot harder than the one from C to C+. It took 5? stones to get it to C+, it's going to take ~20 to get it to B

It took me 3 stones to get to C+ I believe. The value of each stone should depend on several factors (i.e. energy cost of mission, number of allies, progression monsters). I think that's how it works at least.

From how it was described, I inferred this:

-energy cost gives higher chance of getting a stone
-allies also increase chances of stones
-prog monsters increase the amount you gain per stone (by the little red bar the continues past the green one)

by **doublej1965** Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:32 am

kristova wrote:I am doing from A to A+. i am using a prog mon and it is still insanely hard!!!

I agree. I'm using Sin Prog + and the bar hardly has moved after a quite a few (7 or Cool

evolution stones.

The evolution stones are coming less often as well.

Hopefully they will have some "evolution stone" frenzies at some point in time. Wink

by **doublej1965** Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:36 am

silentsong wrote:
faithnomorex wrote:
blah wrote:
faithnomorex wrote:Up to C+ already... and didn't even use a Progression Monster. This event is too easy...

Not quite... the jump from C+ to B is going to be a lot harder than the one from C to C+. It took 5? stones to get it to C+, it's going to take ~20 to get it to B

It took me 3 stones to get to C+ I believe. The value of each stone should depend on several factors (i.e. energy cost of mission, number of allies, progression monsters). I think that's how it works at least.

From how it was described, I inferred this:

-energy cost gives higher chance of getting a stone
-allies also increase chances of stones
-prog monsters increase the amount you gain per stone (by the little red bar the continues past the green one)

You are spot on on your assessment. The added bonus (little red bar bonus) of course stretches further in early level ups but is very stingy going from A to A+, which I'm on currently.

by **Sabrez95** Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:29 pm

So does anyone know yet if these new AA's are 16BP ones or proper AA's???

by **JessicaMD** Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:16 pm

I heard the new ones are 20BP, nothing yet about the skills though... and that's just something I heard

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