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Post by EdwardStarbuck Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:50 pm

So it's obvious that the new changes were not made to make the game a better playing experience.  Most of the time when A team changes something players whine and complain, maybe even email A team, but not much is done because it doesn't really hit their bottom line financially.  But I've seen players asking everyone to re-rate or rate the game a single star and I think that it would actually be something A team would watch out for.  If we went after Dark Summoner and Dark Rebirth with 1 star ratings as much as possible (Dark Rebirth from the second it opens) then it would be something that could hit their bottom line financially. 

I've already re-rated the game, and I'd encourage you guys to do the same.  Not looking for a debate or comments (this means you Event Horizon lol jk Wink) but please think about this as an actual strategy for letting A team know players can get together to affect them.

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Post by stormweaver1983 Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:42 pm

Done.

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Post by soul88 Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:24 pm

Same here.

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Post by HelloKitty Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:32 pm

1 Star review. Also while you're at it. Rate any 1 star review as helpful. Any 5 star review as Unhelpful.  If they change position on progs I will change back to a better rating.  But this is just too much. I encourage everyone to get their clan involved in re-rating the game.
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Post by JSOG Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:08 pm

Doing it now. F them.

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Post by Mawrg Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:58 pm

Did it as well.  Also sent them an email:


I am so angry with A-team, I can not put it into words.




First, you make it impossible to trade more than one monster at a time.  Do you truly not realize that many people trade entire teams?  What about 2 AA cards that a particular player can't afford to evolve?




Then, you AGAIN made a card that clearly has wings (the last event AA specialist) without giving the winged monster benefit.




Now, buried deep within the "help" section of the new event is the news that the new specialists are not tradeable until the event is over.  Of course, I don't find that until AFTER I've used paid summons, which I will now NEVER pay for again.   Oh, and the news that we can only replenish our trading tickets with paid summons was an additional slap in the face.




You have crapped all over your dedicated, money-spending players in an apparent effort to drive us toward your new venture.  Do you really think any of us is going to trust you again?




You said in-game that you monitor the forums and web sites.  I encourage you to go and see what is being said about you now, and how many players are leaving.  And I hope you pay attention to all of the new ratings you're getting in the app store and google play...all of the 1-stars.




And I hope you're happy with yourselves.  You've killed your own business.

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Post by ryesteve Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:12 pm

HeroBaby wrote:Rate any 1 star review as helpful. Any 5 star review as Unhelpful. 
Excellent idea. Hadn't thought of that.

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Post by lennon_68 Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:39 pm

Sad

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Post by bbr Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:29 pm

still happy with the new trade system here ^^
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Post by Deathwish Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:18 pm

Done
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Post by IRISHGOD Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:57 pm

Done

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Post by HelloKitty Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:43 pm

bbr wrote:still happy with the new trade system here ^^

BBR, it has nothing to do with the trade system. I don't mind most of that.  This is about not being able to trade Progs before or during an event.  If you pay money and summon 1 that doesn't match your guild you think it's fair to just be stuck with it?
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Post by abbas95 Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:53 am

Done

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Post by Jewelguy Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:31 pm

HeroBaby wrote:
bbr wrote:still happy with the new trade system here ^^

BBR, it has nothing to do with the trade system. I don't mind most of that.  This is about not being able to trade Progs before or during an event.  If you pay money and summon 1 that doesn't match your guild you think it's fair to just be stuck with it?

To answer your question, I say yes, it is fair.

Why? Because this is a game. You pay for a summon even though you are NOT GUARANTEED a prog in your guild. You are NOT GUARANTEED a prog.

As far as disabling trading of progs during an event, it's Ateam's prerogative. It does seem stupid that they would disable it since this is a trading game. I think you should trade a prog in a trading game. I'm with you there BUT Ateam IS ALLOWED to change it if they like. But, in my opinion, it hasn't hurt my playing experience at all. New rules = new playing experience. I still fully enjoy DS & Dark Rebirth TOTALLY ROCKS! I can't wait until they launch additional features. Anyway, enjoy the games whether you decide to pay or not. And most importantly...

LEAVE AN HONEST REVIEW IN THE APP STORES. DO NOT LEAVE A POOR REVIEW JUST IN BOYCOTT. MAKE IT AN HONEST REVIEW. BOYCOTT REVIEWS ARE NOT HONEST REVIEWS.

I am leaving my honest 5-star review for DS & will be giving an honest 5-star review for Rebirth.

Boycott the boycott.
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Post by MR.C Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:34 pm

Jewelguy wrote:
HeroBaby wrote:
bbr wrote:still happy with the new trade system here ^^

BBR, it has nothing to do with the trade system. I don't mind most of that.  This is about not being able to trade Progs before or during an event.  If you pay money and summon 1 that doesn't match your guild you think it's fair to just be stuck with it?

To answer your question, I say yes, it is fair.

Why? Because this is a game. You pay for a summon even though you are NOT GUARANTEED a prog in your guild. You are NOT GUARANTEED a prog.

As far as disabling trading of progs during an event, it's Ateam's prerogative. It does seem stupid that they would disable it since this is a trading game. I think you should trade a prog in a trading game. I'm with you there BUT Ateam IS ALLOWED to change it if they like. But, in my opinion, it hasn't hurt my playing experience at all. New rules = new playing experience. I still fully enjoy DS & Dark Rebirth TOTALLY ROCKS! I can't wait until they launch additional features. Anyway, enjoy the games whether you decide to pay or not. And most importantly...

LEAVE AN HONEST REVIEW IN THE APP STORES. DO NOT LEAVE A POOR REVIEW JUST IN BOYCOTT. MAKE IT AN HONEST REVIEW. BOYCOTT REVIEWS ARE NOT HONEST REVIEWS.

I am leaving my honest 5-star review for DS & will be giving an honest 5-star review for Rebirth.

Boycott the boycott.

Jewelguy, people are leaving there honest opinions (at least for DS). DS is a trading card game thats doing its best to cut out Trading Cards (without spending money).  Are Ateam allowed to change the rules, sure, but people are allowed to rerate the game as a response.

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Post by Jewelguy Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:46 pm

MR.C wrote:
Jewelguy wrote:
HeroBaby wrote:
bbr wrote:still happy with the new trade system here ^^

BBR, it has nothing to do with the trade system. I don't mind most of that.  This is about not being able to trade Progs before or during an event.  If you pay money and summon 1 that doesn't match your guild you think it's fair to just be stuck with it?

To answer your question, I say yes, it is fair.

Why? Because this is a game. You pay for a summon even though you are NOT GUARANTEED a prog in your guild. You are NOT GUARANTEED a prog.

As far as disabling trading of progs during an event, it's Ateam's prerogative. It does seem stupid that they would disable it since this is a trading game. I think you should trade a prog in a trading game. I'm with you there BUT Ateam IS ALLOWED to change it if they like. But, in my opinion, it hasn't hurt my playing experience at all. New rules = new playing experience. I still fully enjoy DS & Dark Rebirth TOTALLY ROCKS! I can't wait until they launch additional features. Anyway, enjoy the games whether you decide to pay or not. And most importantly...

LEAVE AN HONEST REVIEW IN THE APP STORES. DO NOT LEAVE A POOR REVIEW JUST IN BOYCOTT. MAKE IT AN HONEST REVIEW. BOYCOTT REVIEWS ARE NOT HONEST REVIEWS.

I am leaving my honest 5-star review for DS & will be giving an honest 5-star review for Rebirth.

Boycott the boycott.

Jewelguy, people are leaving there honest opinions (at least for DS). DS is a trading card game thats doing its best to cut out Trading Cards (without spending money).  Are Ateam allowed to change the rules, sure, but people are allowed to rerate the game as a response.



I fully understand but when someone rallies others to leave a 1-star review to show Ateam their displeasure with the changes, the 1-star reviews are to show boycott of sorts, not what they think of the game overall. Perhaps, even though a player hates the new changes but thinks the overall game mechanics are pretty good & they enjoy the special events & think the game deserves 3 stars. Should they still rate 1-star as a show of displeasure over the bad changes or should they rate 3-stars because that's their honest opinion?
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Post by MR.C Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:05 pm

Thing is without trading, DS is sterile as hell.  No strategy in any of the combats, events that come down to click a button,  and the slot machine known as dark summons (which can be fun as a gambler if you just acknowledge dark summons as a slot machine). 

And honestly their prizes for the last event for beating the mobious/vagrant lands boss were a bad joke, as are the hunter point rewards for this event.

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Post by Jewelguy Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:17 pm

MR.C wrote:Thing is without trading, DS is sterile as hell.  No strategy in any of the combats, events that come down to click a button,  and the slot machine known as dark summons (which can be fun as a gambler if you just acknowledge dark summons as a slot machine). 

And honestly their prizes for the last event for beating the mobious/vagrant lands boss were a bad joke, as are the hunter point rewards for this event.


Understood. That's your honest opinion & u are totally entitled to it. Some people may think differently. I, for one, enjoy the new trade market (a few things could be changed such as selling groups of items together & trading crystals), the wonderful time hanging out in the DS world with my allies & clan mates, trying to get the all-mighty kick-a** formation, and more. I enjoy DS and Rebirth. Yet, I completely understand and appreciate your opinion along with everyone else's opinions.
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Post by HelloKitty Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:07 am

Okay, I'm not asking anyone to lie on their rating. Just saying that if you want to make your opinion known besides sending an e-mail and getting a bullshit stock answer back then rate it 1 star.  Look at Microsoft and their XBox1 DRM changes.  They listened to their customers and changed their position.  We should use every method we can to voice our discontent. 

    I don't even have a problem with not allowing prog trading DURING an event.  But let us summon them a few days before an event and trade them during that time period.  Then if you pull something out of your guild you can trade.  Or maybe they should just offer 500 Soul Points for the prog.  Leave the 11X packs just for a chance at other AA/AAA's.  Who knows. But the current rules suck.

   This change isn't going to stop me from playing the game.  I also enjoy playing with my clan (Go Squirrels!!) and allies, but these changes are about 1 thing.  Making everyone use Soul Points to compete in events.  So I understand why people that don't want to pay are upset. You HAVE to pay to compete in events now.
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Post by Event Horizon Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:13 am

Go back to sucking G Team's dick please, Jewelguy. No one wants you here.
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Post by SlayerChef Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:07 am

I think what Jewelguy (and sorry man, but Jesus you do come across as a stooge) doesn't get, is that re-rating as a 1 is the ONLY way to try and get across a point to A-Team, and IS an honest representation of where most of us think the game is going.  I don't post a lot, but I've been using the forum for a while now- how many posts are STILL on here about bullshit canned responses from A-Team about issues that never go anywhere.  When we take the time to reach out to them, we're shunned- guess what happens to businesses that don't listen to their customers- THEY FAIL! So, maybe they see the ratings tank for their games, they'll realize we do have a voice and are fully capable of impacting their shitty business decisions.  The old motto is still true- the customer is always right.  A-Team pisses off enough customers, their peeps can go back to designing Pokemon or whatever the eff they did before.  In game, I'm level 225, ranked around 425 and have a full AA+m(20) team.  That cost $ and a lot of time.  I had a blast doing it.  BUT, for them to basically turn around and release what looks like could be an improved version of the EXACT same game is truly a slap in the face.  If they'd released anything else, I wouldn't give a shit, but they rereleased what is basically the same damn game.  So, yeah, I'm pissed, lol.  My two cents!

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Post by Jewelguy Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:44 am

MR.C wrote:Thing is without trading, DS is sterile as hell.  No strategy in any of the combats, events that come down to click a button,  and the slot machine known as dark summons (which can be fun as a gambler if you just acknowledge dark summons as a slot machine). 

And honestly their prizes for the last event for beating the mobious/vagrant lands boss were a bad joke, as are the hunter point rewards for this event.


I'm unable to multiquote from my Droid phone so I'll reply individually.


Events have always been pretty much a click of the button. Dark Rebirth claims it is that on their Google Store page. I kinda like that ease of use. Dark Summons, and other types of summons, has always been a "slot machine" with $ required for regular dark summons. There IS strategy involved in DS. How the heck do u come up with just the right form to defeat McFly? You use stragy. Come up with a kick-a** defense form? Strategy. How do u adapt to these numerous rule changes that body slam our strategy? With more strategy. Not with money. But with strategy.
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Post by Jewelguy Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:58 am

SlayerChef wrote:I think what Jewelguy (and sorry man, but Jesus you do come across as a stooge) doesn't get, is that re-rating as a 1 is the ONLY way to try and get across a point to A-Team, and IS an honest representation of where most of us think the game is going.  I don't post a lot, but I've been using the forum for a while now- how many posts are STILL on here about bullshit canned responses from A-Team about issues that never go anywhere.  When we take the time to reach out to them, we're shunned- guess what happens to businesses that don't listen to their customers- THEY FAIL! So, maybe they see the ratings tank for their games, they'll realize we do have a voice and are fully capable of impacting their shitty business decisions.  The old motto is still true- the customer is always right.  A-Team pisses off enough customers, their peeps can go back to designing Pokemon or whatever the eff they did before.  In game, I'm level 225, ranked around 425 and have a full AA+m(20) team.  That cost $ and a lot of time.  I had a blast doing it.  BUT, for them to basically turn around and release what looks like could be an improved version of the EXACT same game is truly a slap in the face.  If they'd released anything else, I wouldn't give a shit, but they rereleased what is basically the same damn game.  So, yeah, I'm pissed, lol.  My two cents!

2 things. 1. A review is what you think of the game overall, not where you think it's going. 2. Have you actually played Rebirth and really gotten into it? I have. I spent all day yesterday playing. While it does share some similarities to DS including some monsters, it is different and original in many ways. The quests are way different. Ally requests to strangers are sent in quests. There many random enemy summoners in quests. Instead of raid bosses and the bosses at the end of DS quests, there's bad a** bosses at the end of each location which is spread out into multiple parts. Skills are totally different. Every monster has a chance of receiving a sac monster's sk8ll. Each monster can obtain up to 3 skills. Some C monsters even have skills. Monsters can be summoned at different levels and +ed already (kinda like Forgotten Island). There's warp discs, keys, and more in quests. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Rebirth is not an exact copy of DS in 3d.
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Post by Jewelguy Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:04 am

Event Horizon wrote:Go back to sucking G Team's dick please, Jewelguy. No one wants you here.

Will the mods please delete this message that clearly offends me? And will the mods kindly take action against Event Horizon for posting this clearly offensive message? Thank you.


One more thing: @Event Horizon: I am not leaving ds-forum. I will haunt you here forever. Your offensive message has ensured that I never will let you forget it.
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Post by Jewelguy Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:14 am

Lastly, I am not only keeping my 5-star reviews but clicking each 1-star review as unhelpful in Google Play. DS and Rebirth do not require real $. It requires using real strategy. Using your head and thinking it out. You may want it easy ("Give me my guild prog so I can use it & sell it for profit. Oh, and btw, the auction house is too hard for me. You, Ateam, have made it hard to make a profit so I can't rank every week because I don't know hiw to use actual strategy so I'm just going to throw a big, bad tantrum until I get my own way. Boo hoo hoo waah.") but not me. I want a real challenge that I gotta adapt my strategy to. Not my money to, my strategy to.
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