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Post by JSOG Thu May 09, 2013 12:27 pm

I got 23 crystals with a 202 bp team.

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Post by ryesteve Thu May 09, 2013 12:30 pm

So, +120 atk is really 24 per monsters? Seems kinda pointless...

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Post by faithnomorex Thu May 09, 2013 12:47 pm

ryesteve wrote:So, +120 atk is really 24 per monsters? Seems kinda pointless...

I was assuming it was per monster. Either way, % will almost certainly better than the flat values.

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Post by ryesteve Thu May 09, 2013 12:51 pm

I was initially assuming the same, but since we don't get to see the actual impact anyplace, it's hard to know. I was wondering if maybe there was some fine print someplace I didn't read that explained this stuff.

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Post by Maduk Thu May 09, 2013 1:14 pm

Best ones ive got so far is 5% to nullify enemy DEA skill
and -5% attack from winged mobs
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Post by episparh Thu May 09, 2013 1:17 pm

ryesteve wrote:So, +120 atk is really 24 per monsters? Seems kinda pointless...

This can be easily checked with 1 and 2 Cs + agi vs known team but I am too lazy

If the attack with 1 is greater than this with 2 ...
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Post by Hecatonchyr Thu May 09, 2013 3:15 pm

This is most certainly +120 per monster, because +24 is just dumb and totally useless compared to a relica that grants +x%.

Also I seem to see a color node attached to relica (the color in the background):

White: most likely worthless. This is like summoning a B.

Green: Better. Some relica with good one effect (>+180 in a stat, or 2 effects, like the executionner suffix (add atk and def)). This is A summon.

Blue: Overpowered. My Ring of Faith (page 3) is blue. I think this is like AA summon. On more than 30 relica I got one blue about 25 white and the rest in green.

I don't know if there is other colors available.

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Post by Rinoa Thu May 09, 2013 3:26 pm

greedy armlet - steal 3% more gold from defeated enemies
armlet of the steward - def +340 enemy acc -5%

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Post by faithnomorex Thu May 09, 2013 3:29 pm

Hecatonchyr wrote:This is most certainly +120 per monster, because +24 is just dumb and totally useless compared to a relica that grants +x%.

Also I seem to see a color node attached to relica (the color in the background):

White: most likely worthless. This is like summoning a B.

Green: Better. Some relica with good one effect (>+180 in a stat, or 2 effects, like the executionner suffix (add atk and def)). This is A summon.

Blue: Overpowered. My Ring of Faith (page 3) is blue. I think this is like AA summon. On more than 30 relica I got one blue about 25 white and the rest in green.

I don't know if there is other colors available.

Looks like they may be loosely following WoW coloring, which goes White < Green < Blue < Purple < Orange. If so, I have an orange background (which would equate to legendary?) and should then theoretically be quite a bit more rare than blue. The percentage is certainly high enough to be pretty good.

Earring of the Fisherman
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-7% Enemy HP


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Post by echoside Thu May 09, 2013 4:03 pm

Purple bg - earring of passion -7%att -6% hp +4% dge

Purple bg - savage gauntlet of rigidity +420 def 10% chance decrease winged monsters hp

Blue bg - necklace of the executioner - +400 att +260 def

Orange bg - greedy armlet of grace - +400hp -9% acc +2% dge, steal 5% gold

Purple bg - calm ring of the steward - -9% def +5% acc, 5% nullify ipa

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Post by faithnomorex Thu May 09, 2013 5:02 pm

Ok, with the reporting of purple backgrounds, I'm now quite convinced they copied the WoW coloring.

So in order of best to worst (or rarity perhaps):
1) Orange
2) Purple
3) Blue
4) Green
5) White

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Post by Mawrg Thu May 09, 2013 5:42 pm

Gauntlet of the Fisherman (purple)
+440 ATK
+260 DEF

Necklace of Rigidity (looks white to me)
+100 DEF

Meh....

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Post by TreyDobe Thu May 09, 2013 5:53 pm

Does anyone know if the added values are added before percent buffs from skills and combos or added in afterwards?
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Post by DevilJin6Six6 Thu May 09, 2013 7:42 pm

I would assume it is added in after clan bonus but before skill bonus, because that is the order it goes in on the battle screen

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Post by TreyDobe Thu May 09, 2013 7:57 pm

DevilJin6Six6 wrote:I would assume it is added in after clan bonus but before skill bonus, because that is the order it goes in on the battle screen

Makes sense ^^
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Post by episparh Fri May 10, 2013 3:53 am

Hecatonchyr wrote:This is most certainly +120 per monster, because +24 is just dumb and totally useless compared to a relica that grants +x%.

Also I seem to see a color node attached to relica (the color in the background):

White: most likely worthless. This is like summoning a B.

Green: Better. Some relica with good one effect (>+180 in a stat, or 2 effects, like the executionner suffix (add atk and def)). This is A summon.

Blue: Overpowered. My Ring of Faith (page 3) is blue. I think this is like AA summon. On more than 30 relica I got one blue about 25 white and the rest in green.

I don't know if there is other colors available.

my armlet is purple
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Post by rathmorg Fri May 10, 2013 7:25 am

I guess I'm missing something. I can't seem to get a crystal. Only level 71, but haven't won a crystal.

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Post by borix Fri May 10, 2013 8:52 am

You don't get them often when you win a battle. But battle (and win) a lot and you should get them eventually.

Also collect the free 100 crystals by going to the relica menu - maybe it is activated only after you go there (just a wild guess).

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Post by rathmorg Fri May 10, 2013 11:26 am

Thks. I got the 100 first thing. The 2 I got was from evolving the event monster. I received none the second time evolving. I have 2 teams, 70 & 109 bp. Haven't won a crystal with either. Sad

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Post by JessicaMD Fri May 10, 2013 1:35 pm

I'm not sure if blue is "overpowered"...

I have a blue Armlet of the Gardener that gives +300 health an -1 Acc on enemy, doesn't seem that incredible lol
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Post by DevilJin6Six6 Fri May 10, 2013 1:40 pm

I want to know where these "gardeners" and "fisherman" are from that make these magical relics.

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Post by larry378 Fri May 10, 2013 2:34 pm

frankly, I'm inclined to believe that the color:effectiveness ratio is either poorly implemented or nonexistent

I have a purple
Gauntlet of Luck

that does nothing but give +5% dodge...

while I see other purple items in this thread that give 3 effects
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Post by episparh Fri May 10, 2013 4:13 pm

larry378 wrote:frankly, I'm inclined to believe that the color:effectiveness ratio is either poorly implemented or nonexistent

I have a purple
Gauntlet of Luck

that does nothing but give +5% dodge...

while I see other purple items in this thread that give 3 effects

Perhaps different items have different max bonuses as in most MMOs
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Post by South.sin Fri May 10, 2013 4:20 pm

50 crystals and a necklace with +110 DEF!!
Uhull!!!! ¬¬

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Post by Hecatonchyr Fri May 10, 2013 4:45 pm

I've done a few more tests and the color:rarity seems a bit off... Based on what I had before and what I obtained:

White - Necklace of Power - Atk+160
White - Gauntlet of Power - Atk+170
White - Earring of Rigidity - -4% enemy Def
White - Gauntlet of Dexterity - -1% enemy Acc
White - Languid Earring - 2% chance to nullify enemy Party Health Plus skill
White - Quiet Gauntlet - Decrease enemy winged monsters' Def by 4%

Green - Armlet of the Executioner - Atk+210 Def+180
Green - Armlet of Rigidity - Def+230
Green - Armlet of Life - HP+180
Green - Gauntlet of Rigidity - Def+190
Green - Gauntlet of Rigidity - Def+240 (picture of both gauntlet is different)
Green - Dull Necklace - 5% chance to nullify enemy Critical Rate Up skill

Blue - Charming Gauntlet - 9% chance to decrease enemy winged Dodge Rate skill
Blue - Necklace of the Merchant - Def+270 -4% enemy Dodge
Blue - Ring of Faith - Atk+9% Def+310 HP+5%

Orange - Tranquil Armlet of Life - HP+360 5% chance to nullify enemy Agility Up skill

Also I've spent 50 crystals for a Necklace of Luck Dodge+1%, 7 mybps for that...


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