Another poorly designed event from ATeam
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Another poorly designed event from ATeam
So ATeam decided to encourage 5x lvl 1, 1 BP monster raiding? And we don't get any credit when people attack us... 5000 normal battles at 95 BP each (the right way) is almost 500,000 energy or a ridiculous amount of BP's. This feels poorly designed and not well thought out. Am I missing something??
Hypertrophic- Posts : 48
Join date : 2012-03-08
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
Yeah... it seems it didn't occur to them that people would abuse the system. Especially considering the numbers required for rewards are in the thousands... is it even possible to do that normally? They didn't think, at all.
Auren- Posts : 61
Join date : 2012-03-05
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
You got big sum of money during the tower event, and you're gonna lost most of it due to the stupid battle royale event, well done Ateam
minikoo- Posts : 99
Join date : 2012-04-10
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
Yea, I have to agree with what everyone said. This is a poorly planned event. I've seen quite a few people now with an all C level team (and I am guessing 5 BP total) out there. For that team to work, everyone has to battle it out with C levels *sigh*. To get the good stuff, you need thousands of battles won for the dark summons and the A rank summons at the end. The only way to do that is if everyone in the Dark Summoner community decides to help each other. I do not really see that happening though.
KenshinX122- Posts : 33
Join date : 2012-03-08
Age : 38
Location : New York
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
Everyone gets at least:
24*60 = 1440 BP per day
I'm assuming most people put most skill points into energy, so there's bound to be some wasted BP during the day. Then factor in collection bonuses, I'd estimate everyone has roughly 1000-1200 usable BP per day.
The event lasts for roughly 9 days, so you have roughly 10,000 natural BP to use.
If you use a very average team that uses 50-60 BP per fight, you're getting about 200 fights total.
If you use a all 1 BP team, you could potentially get up to 2000 fights from that, but I'd be surprised if you can win even 1/3 of them.
If you use a team with 1 good A+ and 4 C's (no point using B's, since good ones cost as much as A's), it'd be about 20 BP per fight, so 500 fights that you can all win if you pick good targets.
24*60 = 1440 BP per day
I'm assuming most people put most skill points into energy, so there's bound to be some wasted BP during the day. Then factor in collection bonuses, I'd estimate everyone has roughly 1000-1200 usable BP per day.
The event lasts for roughly 9 days, so you have roughly 10,000 natural BP to use.
If you use a very average team that uses 50-60 BP per fight, you're getting about 200 fights total.
If you use a all 1 BP team, you could potentially get up to 2000 fights from that, but I'd be surprised if you can win even 1/3 of them.
If you use a team with 1 good A+ and 4 C's (no point using B's, since good ones cost as much as A's), it'd be about 20 BP per fight, so 500 fights that you can all win if you pick good targets.
segamatic- Posts : 49
Join date : 2012-03-06
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
Max A+ massacre + cx4 = 14BP.. I have 250BP = lots of fights,, usinf 2 Battle pots i ran out of fightable targets@105 fights = roughly 35 players weak enough for me to hit... i think i will be lucky to hit the 1000 fight mark but we will see
Drag0n- Posts : 647
Join date : 2012-03-31
Age : 40
Location : Australia
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
Hypertrophic wrote:...This feels poorly designed and not well thought out. Am I missing something??
No, you're not. It seems to me that not much in this game is well thought out. The tower event was a tedious, boring train wreck.
Madcap- Posts : 41
Join date : 2012-03-20
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
Why not just use a single 1 BP monster as a leader, 1 BP per battle, and spam the shit out of it? It doesn't appear for the rewards that wins/losses matter, other than saying goodbye to your gold.
dan- Posts : 382
Join date : 2012-04-11
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
You have to field a team of 5 and fight a team of 5 or it doesn't count.
Auren- Posts : 61
Join date : 2012-03-05
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
Auren wrote:You have to field a team of 5 and fight a team of 5 or it doesn't count.
Right, I remember reading that... need morning coffee...
dan- Posts : 382
Join date : 2012-04-11
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
bump. Already doing this.
dan- Posts : 382
Join date : 2012-04-11
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
I've noticed that it will still count the battle even if the defending player does not have a formation of five.
dan- Posts : 382
Join date : 2012-04-11
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
i believe the bug will be fixeddan wrote:I've noticed that it will still count the battle even if the defending player does not have a formation of five.
Unreality- Posts : 59
Join date : 2012-04-12
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
Will support this as well (once i get enough reapers, out of energy atm hehe)dan wrote:
bump. Already doing this.
Onds- Posts : 114
Join date : 2012-04-09
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
Quite some players have already joined the plan
Unreality- Posts : 59
Join date : 2012-04-12
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
Trouble is, after searching the first 150 players, out of the many that SEEM to be supporting the plan, i've encountered one (1!) not actually cheating.
People are using C+ reapers here, levelled reapers there, making many of the battles are a big waste of time (and obviously bp) trying to do it "the fair way".
Edit: And yeah, i know many are using a low bp setup. Some of the below look like they are deliberately cheating though.
List of those with reapers as leader portrait
(green = legit, red = possible cheater, yellow = no dsbattle setup)
===============================================
041 --- xxizexx --- using gluttony in the setup (not leader)
069 --- kiss --- c+ reaper + mixed stuff (might change setup later i guess)
074 --- Rhyno --- c+ reaper(s)
077 --- Neliel --- c+ reaper + mixed stuff (might change setup later i guess)
098 --- Damon --- c+ reaper + mixed stuff (might change setup later i guess)
103 --- UNO --- LEGIT
107 --- boredomi666 --- setup looks legit, but reapers seem to hit slightly harder than lvl 1 / c reapers
112 --- Zooco --- setup looks legit, but reapers seem to hit slightly harder than lvl 1 / c reapers
113 --- GareBear --- c+ reaper(s)
115 --- killyou --- c+ reaper + mixed stuff (might change setup later i guess)
127 --- maverick --- mixed stuff (might change setup later i guess)
164 --- Fabio Reis --- c+ reaper + mixed stuff (might change setup later i guess)
173 --- Haji --- c+ reaper + mixed stuff (might change setup later i guess)
179 --- hindari --- void in the setup
218 --- Angry Pirate --- mixed stuff (might change setup later i guess)
239 --- David Coppafeel - c+ (might change setup later i guess)
252 --- peebee --- only 4 reapers in formation
283 --- DeadSight --- Void in setup
295 --- DanielK --- c+ (might change setup later i guess)
332 --- Lyreal --- official operation reaper in description, but mixed setup
385 --- Glutony --- c+ (might change setup later i guess)
(couldn't be arsed searching any further)
Gonna be doing some mixed setups myself until more people join in
People are using C+ reapers here, levelled reapers there, making many of the battles are a big waste of time (and obviously bp) trying to do it "the fair way".
Edit: And yeah, i know many are using a low bp setup. Some of the below look like they are deliberately cheating though.
List of those with reapers as leader portrait
(green = legit, red = possible cheater, yellow = no dsbattle setup)
===============================================
041 --- xxizexx --- using gluttony in the setup (not leader)
069 --- kiss --- c+ reaper + mixed stuff (might change setup later i guess)
074 --- Rhyno --- c+ reaper(s)
077 --- Neliel --- c+ reaper + mixed stuff (might change setup later i guess)
098 --- Damon --- c+ reaper + mixed stuff (might change setup later i guess)
103 --- UNO --- LEGIT
107 --- boredomi666 --- setup looks legit, but reapers seem to hit slightly harder than lvl 1 / c reapers
112 --- Zooco --- setup looks legit, but reapers seem to hit slightly harder than lvl 1 / c reapers
113 --- GareBear --- c+ reaper(s)
115 --- killyou --- c+ reaper + mixed stuff (might change setup later i guess)
127 --- maverick --- mixed stuff (might change setup later i guess)
164 --- Fabio Reis --- c+ reaper + mixed stuff (might change setup later i guess)
173 --- Haji --- c+ reaper + mixed stuff (might change setup later i guess)
179 --- hindari --- void in the setup
218 --- Angry Pirate --- mixed stuff (might change setup later i guess)
239 --- David Coppafeel - c+ (might change setup later i guess)
252 --- peebee --- only 4 reapers in formation
283 --- DeadSight --- Void in setup
295 --- DanielK --- c+ (might change setup later i guess)
332 --- Lyreal --- official operation reaper in description, but mixed setup
385 --- Glutony --- c+ (might change setup later i guess)
(couldn't be arsed searching any further)
Gonna be doing some mixed setups myself until more people join in
Last edited by Onds on Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:55 pm; edited 4 times in total
Onds- Posts : 114
Join date : 2012-04-09
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
I had a problem early and swapped in c+ reapers. Will swap back when I take a break. :-\ I think my phone is about to overheat. lol.
dan- Posts : 382
Join date : 2012-04-11
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
those aren't joining the plan yet. They just naturally using bp 1 monstersOnds wrote:Trouble is, after searching the first 150 players, out of the many that SEEM to be supporting the plan
Only those with Reaper plan at their info count
Unreality- Posts : 59
Join date : 2012-04-12
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
Lol. Most of the high rank on weekly r using C rank. Lol
Time to beat them up
Time to beat them up
UnderGround- Posts : 193
Join date : 2012-04-03
Just keep losing
Go with 1bp monster team, spam atk random ppl. For me 500battle done atm.
forseek- Posts : 99
Join date : 2012-04-09
Age : 32
Location : Canada
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
forseek wrote:Go with 1bp monster team, spam atk random ppl. For me 500battle done atm.
Except, there's an entirely separate reward tree for number of wins.
dan- Posts : 382
Join date : 2012-04-11
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
David coppafeel as of now has one C+ red sea reaper, random fairies and stuff in lineup
The magister has one C+ (not red sea) reaper, then a Wyrm lineup (ITS A TRAP).
Garebear C+ red sea leader, mixed lineup
xxizexx C red sea reaper as leader, pure dark,nwd, sear and stone tarasque.
Will add more as soon as i find em.
(killbot - not reaper but still a winnable match
the chosen one - one reaper and four fairies, still winnable depending on luck
moonchild - mixed lineup still winnable
hellgod - 2 reaper 3 fairies still winnable
fiendish devil - i'd say legit, team seems right, but lost 2 battles out of three. reapers leveled?
Onds - LEGIT <---- lol hey Onds, didn't know it was you!
Lyrael - i'd say legit, team seems right, but lost 3 battles out of three. reapers leveled?
Unreality - LEGIT
I am of course participating.
The magister has one C+ (not red sea) reaper, then a Wyrm lineup (ITS A TRAP).
Garebear C+ red sea leader, mixed lineup
xxizexx C red sea reaper as leader, pure dark,nwd, sear and stone tarasque.
Will add more as soon as i find em.
(killbot - not reaper but still a winnable match
the chosen one - one reaper and four fairies, still winnable depending on luck
moonchild - mixed lineup still winnable
hellgod - 2 reaper 3 fairies still winnable
fiendish devil - i'd say legit, team seems right, but lost 2 battles out of three. reapers leveled?
Onds - LEGIT <---- lol hey Onds, didn't know it was you!
Lyrael - i'd say legit, team seems right, but lost 3 battles out of three. reapers leveled?
Unreality - LEGIT
I am of course participating.
Last edited by TankReady on Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:00 pm; edited 2 times in total
TankReady- Posts : 60
Join date : 2012-03-20
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
forseek wrote:Go with 1bp monster team, spam atk random ppl. For me 500battle done atm.
so u prefer the total battles than the number of wins
UnderGround- Posts : 193
Join date : 2012-04-03
Re: Another poorly designed event from ATeam
TankReady wrote:David coppafeel as of now has one C+ red sea reaper, random fairies and stuff in lineup
The magister has one C+ (not red sea) reaper, then a Wyrm lineup (ITS A TRAP).
Garebear C+ red sea leader, mixed lineup
xxizexx C red sea reaper as leader, pure dark,nwd, sear and stone tarasque.
Will add more as soon as i find em.
(killbot - not reaper but still a winnable match
the chosen one - one reaper and four fairies, still winnable depending on luck
moonchild - mixed lineup still winnable
hellgod - 2 reaper 3 fairies still winnable
fiendish devil - i'd say legit, team seems right, but lost 2 battles out of three. reapers leveled?
Onds - LEGIT <---- lol hey Onds, didn't know it was you!
Lyrael - i'd say legit, team seems right, but lost 3 battles out of three. reapers leveled?
Unreality - LEGIT
I am of course participating.
Hi thanks for the list. By the way I think the more important is to promote the idea to more people. Many of ppl in your list hasn't joined the operation yet. And maybe you can pledge at the "pledges" tab at tinyurl.com/dsbattle too
Unreality- Posts : 59
Join date : 2012-04-12
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