Summoning types and their possible results

So i want to create a table with information on summons and their probability. Here goes:

Rank \ Summon Type:	Ally Points Summon	Ally Invite Summon	Rank B Summon	Rank A Summon	Free Dark Summon	Dark Summon
C	Most	Most	-	-	-	-
C+	Most	Most	-	-	-	-
B	Common	Common	Most	-	Most	Most
B+	Common	Common	Most	-	Most	Most
A	Rare	-	Common	Almost All	Common	Common
A Event Progression	-	-	-	-	Common	Common
A Special Evolved	-	Rare	-	-	-	-
AA	-	-	Ultra Rare	Super Rare	Very Rare	Very Rare

Updated. I will also try and update it for any even like the Ally Invite Campaign. If you have % for any spot, post as well plz. Hard evidence only plz. No: "I heard of a guy".

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Looks good. Only thing I would add is I have received C class monsters with Dark summons before. Which sucks

I've never gotten a C from a dark summon.

It's not possible to get a C from a Dark Summon, you must have confused a dark summon with an ally summon.

AA probability is better with normal dark summon than free dark summon.

Officially, AA probability is the SAME for free dark summons and soul point dark summons. Unless there are special events (like the Anniversary one).
Ally Invite Summons can only summon A rank special monsters. Not other A rank monsters.
Rank B summons can summon rank A monsters.
Rank B and Rank A summons should technically have a chance to summon AAs by their description. However, whether anyone has actually summoned one is another story.

Officially, AA probability is the SAME for free dark summons and soul point dark summons. Unless there are special events (like the Anniversary one).

that is not true, A-Team has given feedback in the past that a FREE Dark Summon does not have the same summon table as a "real" dark summon, which is even more apparent now that free dark summons have their own section of the summons page separated from the real dark summons.

One comment: you should have very, very, rare for AA summon from Dark summons instead of rare.

"Rare" for A rank monsters from ally points isn't very rare(It's around 1/10). If you had that for Dark Summon + AA, that would be amazing.

Yes, B summon can yield A. I've heard people say that they got AA from ally point summon(like Vlad/Taroth).

Also, I find that Ally point summons give almost as many B's as A's, so maybe they should be rated about the same?

blah wrote:One comment: you should have very, very, rare for AA summon from Dark summons instead of rare.

"Rare" for A rank monsters from ally points isn't very rare(It's around 1/10). If you had that for Dark Summon + AA, that would be amazing.

Yes, B summon can yield A. I've heard people say that they got AA from ally point summon(like Vlad/Taroth).

Also, I find that Ally point summons give almost as many B's as A's, so maybe they should be rated about the same?

Yes, but the vast majority of the As you get from ally summons serve the same purpose as the B's; skill sacrifices.

..::Updated::..

I had very Rare at the AA at first, changed it back again.
The Ally invite summon summoning As was a mistake, kinda hard to keep track with a forum table set, Rank B summon the same ^^

I disagree about the Ally Point summons yielding the same amount of As and Bs. There is definately more Bs.

I've heard people say that they got AA from ally point summon(like Vlad/Taroth).

Can someone confirm this? First hand?

"Rare" for A rank monsters from ally points isn't very rare(It's around 1/10)

I changed the tag in AA summons, so I'll leave Rare there, as i dont think 1/10 is common, but i see the necessary destinction

is it just me or has everyone else getting mass child of pits/wwe from ally summons lately?

Do the rank A summon really summon almost all the As? From doing 50+ rank A summons, I'm not sure I got anything above 20bp. They were all old monsters as well. None of the recent ones.

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Also missing epic dark in the table. Not really sure what the distinction is but it supposedly have a higher chance at AA.

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Can't say for sure. But they should. I got a Sea Dragon 22BP once. I suppose chances are just really low.

Has anyone notice that rank B summon don't summon the more recent B's. Most noticably the lack of guild down ones.

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Horg wrote:

Officially, AA probability is the SAME for free dark summons and soul point dark summons. Unless there are special events (like the Anniversary one).

that is not true, A-Team has given feedback in the past that a FREE Dark Summon does not have the same summon table as a "real" dark summon, which is even more apparent now that free dark summons have their own section of the summons page separated from the real dark summons.

Afraid that you're wrong.
From the official Dark Summoner faq: "Any monster can appear, with the opportunity being equal for a Dark Summon that uses Soul Points and a Free Dark Summon"
Where'd you see that A Team has given ANY feedback much less on their summon tables?

kyan wrote:Has anyone notice that rank B summon don't summon the more recent B's. Most noticably the lack of guild down ones.

I believe that I have summoned guild down Bs. Haven't summoned any of the new skillless Bs, but then I don't want to...

Also... you are missing Epic Dark Summons.. summon As or higher.
And Anima Summons.. summon skill spirits.
And.. the probability of getting AAs is unknown.. so I don't think that you can put that. It is probably not 1% from Dark Summons. Much lower..

I only have currently available Summons (although people could still have leftovers). Will update when new come available. Or you post what they have and what they can summon. since i never used those i can't really give information about them.

Rank B summons summon covert down, impulse down and psycho down. I have several from the Rank B summons.

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If Horg can show me a quote where it says free DS has lower AA chance, I'll change it again, so long it stays the same.

Since I started a month ago, I've gotten 4 C's from free Dark Summons.

For Ally Point Summon (not the free daily) there was another thread that a few of You know you're beautiful a 100 ally summons each and got these approx percents:
C/C+ = ~80%
B/B+ = ~13%
A = ~7%

kyan wrote:Do the rank A summon really summon almost all the As? From doing 50+ rank A summons, I'm not sure I got anything above 20bp. They were all old monsters as well. None of the recent ones.

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From the A summons I've kept track of, I've never gotten any of the newer ones. The last A summon I received from dragon wall event got me a Quetz, but most of the others weren't very good either. I did notice the A summons from the dragon wall yielded me more 18+bp creatures than A summons I got before. May just be chance though.

Might want to separate the A category into Elite and Normal, to better define the limits of the A Summon. So normal A would be common and Elite A would be uncommon, set AA to "astronomical, better chance of winning the lottery....twice...". As for the info I found about the dark summon vs free dark summon, definitely not going to search the forum for hours trying to find that same thread I stumbled across a month ago.

Lol, don't you mean better chance of being struck by lighting three times when you are at the same place? There is a saying that lighting never strikes the same place twice, lol. I must say though, the table seems to vary greatly based on lvl, from my personal observations. I recently spent a week on an alt account due to locking myself out of my main, ally point summons on said alt never summoned anything higher than a c+. Once I was back to my main... I'm getting much more B's and A's, lol. My guess is that a team uses different tables for different level ranges, and that they change those tables, and the level ranges to which they apply, regularly, to keep us guessing, lol.

no need to overdo it^^ i think people get that AA is rare as hell.
The A seperation though... i am not sure. Definition says you can get them (and we went by definition for the DS/Free DS) but expirience points the other way...

jusbao wrote:Since I started a month ago, I've gotten 4 C's from free Dark Summons.

i havent never heard of anyone getting c monsters from dark summons free or other wise.