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Post by TheFury Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:22 am

Does anyone know exactly what this means? Has anyone gotten the message "your clan is within the top 50"? Or "your clan is within the top 10"?


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Post by rekt Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:34 am

TheFury wrote:Does anyone know exactly what this means? Has anyone gotten the message "your clan is within the top 50"? Or "your clan is within the top 10"?


Where did you get the quote "your clan is within the top 50"? Or "your clan is within the top 10" ? Does it say that for yours or someone you know?

Mine says "out of the ranking" = not possible.... Neutral Sad

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Post by TheFury Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:38 am

rekt wrote:
TheFury wrote:Does anyone know exactly what this means? Has anyone gotten the message "your clan is within the top 50"? Or "your clan is within the top 10"?


Where did you get the quote "your clan is within the top 50"? Or "your clan is within the top 10" ? Does it say that for yours or someone you know?

Mine says "out of the ranking" = not possible.... Neutral Sad

Oh, I made those two up - all I've seen is "your clan is within the top 100", and I'm wondering if all top 100 clans got that, or if just #s 100 to 51 got it (and therefore clan ranks 50 and better got the message "your clan is within the top 50).

I found this message at the top of the clan ranking reward page.

A lot of people seem to have the message "your clan is out of the ranking" too. I wouldn't trust them 100% yet :/

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Post by rekt Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:44 am

TheFury wrote:
rekt wrote:
TheFury wrote:Does anyone know exactly what this means? Has anyone gotten the message "your clan is within the top 50"? Or "your clan is within the top 10"?


Where did you get the quote "your clan is within the top 50"? Or "your clan is within the top 10" ? Does it say that for yours or someone you know?

Mine says "out of the ranking" = not possible.... Neutral Sad

Oh, I made those two up - all I've seen is "your clan is within the top 100", and I'm wondering if all top 100 clans got that, or if just #s 100 to 51 got it (and therefore clan ranks 50 and better got the message "your clan is within the top 50).

I found this message at the top of the clan ranking reward page.

A lot of people seem to have the message "your clan is out of the ranking" too. I wouldn't trust them 100% yet :/

Yes I don't think these calculations are correct too for my clan lol. I don't know how many people have the same amounts of crystals as us.....

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Post by Gav Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:53 am

What are your clans amount of crystals?

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Post by Taikobo Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:17 am

Within the top 10, or 50 or w/e is also still within the top 100..
Think about it. This is just done so that no one really knows for certain what position they are.
If they got to see if they were in the top 10, and knew someone who was in top 50, that'd be enough to know what they still had to do to stay there.

The out of ranking isn't weird yet either. Just think about how many clans are there, and how many will be close to each other. It's been just a few days are the first rating, so obviously nothing is final yet, or perhaps even calculated yet.

Just wait a day, perhaps it clears up more.
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Post by Hecatonchyr Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:28 am

Taikobo is right, there is no advantage for ATeam to say that your clan is 13 or 33 when they can just say top 100, therefore 25 guys will be heading towards soul points to get eps, also I doubt anyone is dumb enough to actually say the actual number of crystals of his clan, but he will probably say a number twice or thrice superior and tentatives to guess real ranking will be vain

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Post by TheFury Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:07 am

Hecatonchyr wrote:Taikobo is right, there is no advantage for ATeam to say that your clan is 13 or 33 when they can just say top 100, therefore 25 guys will be heading towards soul points to get eps, also I doubt anyone is dumb enough to actually say the actual number of crystals of his clan, but he will probably say a number twice or thrice superior and tentatives to guess real ranking will be vain


So you're saying instead of telling everyone my clan has 400,000 crystals, I should tell everyone my clan has 1,200,000 crystals?

Also, yeah, it makes total sense - I just hope they are honest about who is and isn't in the top 100, if nothing else.

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Post by Hecatonchyr Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:41 am

Not an extreme 400-1200 but its easy to say my clan has 180k crystals when it actually has 85k, and because of this you can't make a good ranking

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Post by dan Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:58 am

My clan has OVER 9000! Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Post by jay Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:41 pm

I'm pretty sure my clan is in the top 10 or 20, and it tells me "top 100", so I think it's just "top 100" or "rank out" today.

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Post by Mnemonicus Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:59 pm

Clans that are out of the top 100 get an actual rank. So I'm assuming if you are in the top 100, you get "top 100", if you are 101-500 you most likely get a rank, otherwise you are out of rank.

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Post by jay Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:27 pm

I'm a little surprised that there might even be 500 active clans Smile

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Post by éckas Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:48 pm

Our clan has about 65.000+ with no bluff and we are ranked top 100.

With my second account whose clan has about 45.000+ crystals is also top 100.

Perhaps ATeam is saying "top 100" for all of us so that

1. People can believe that there are hopes of getting AA monsters by buying more EPs
2. People can be relieved as far as their ranks go, hence making them more active.
and by "more active" I mean "less inactive"
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Post by Hecatonchyr Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:16 pm

I know also 1 clan with 20k crystals ranked 202, lvl 26 with 21 members and maybe 10 actives, so I agree with jay its pretty sure that the last clan is 300 or so

And also 1250 AAs is a lot, these AAs won't be probably very high in value

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Post by jay Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:47 pm

Hecatonchyr wrote:And also 1250 AAs is a lot, these AAs won't be probably very high in value
I hope not, since I plan to trade for a second one Smile

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Post by TrencH Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:09 pm

According to what I saw for the stats of the new monsters in the game plus the AAs we have in the monster list everyone contributes to I am pretty sure that they will be:

Xuanwu AA+ Max:

ATT - 9120
DEF - 12540
HP - 13680
Total - 35340

Increase Party Defense (1)

BP 28

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Baihu AA+ Max:

ATT - 11400
DEF - 11400
HP - 12540
Total - 35340

Decrease Enemy Defense (1)

BP 28

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Suzuku AA+ Max:

ATT - 11400
DEF - 13680
HP - 10260
Total - 35340

Decrease Enemy Attack (1)

BP 28

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Look at a the monster list and it is easy to figure out the monster stats. I looked at the A list amnd the level maxed lists and the rest is simple addition / subtraction.

In addition, I beleive everyone who is still in the running is at the top 100. I have not run into anyone who has had a different message (unless they ranked out)

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Post by jay Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:57 pm

TrencH wrote:In addition, I beleive everyone who is still in the running is at the top 100. I have not run into anyone who has had a different message (unless they ranked out)
No, clans that aren't in the top 100 got an actual number.

If people knew their ranking in the top 100, I think most of the top 10 would just stop doing the event, and then the company wouldn't make more money. They really needed fewer AAs as prizes.. top 20 clans would've made more sense (from that perspective)

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Post by Liberator Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:32 am

With a lot of low level members and no top players, my clan is ranked 200+ with less than 20k crystal Sad


BTW I always wonder why dev would name earth and ice lord as baihu and xuanwu, while fire lord as suzaku rather than zhuque? If zhuque is a little hard to pronounce for westerners, why not just call baihu as byakko and xuanwu as genbu, since ateam are japenese company.......

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Post by Shadowkyma Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:14 am

Does anyone know the spicies of the AA monsters?
I'm guessing the covert would be a beast and the psycho a brute (from the pics) but i can't tell if the sin AA is a demon or a brute.

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Post by dreadyfr Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:54 am

Rumor has it they all are beasts

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Post by kyan Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:20 am

jay wrote:
TrencH wrote:In addition, I beleive everyone who is still in the running is at the top 100. I have not run into anyone who has had a different message (unless they ranked out)
No, clans that aren't in the top 100 got an actual number.

If people knew their ranking in the top 100, I think most of the top 10 would just stop doing the event, and then the company wouldn't make more money. They really needed fewer AAs as prizes.. top 20 clans would've made more sense (from that perspective)

Well, if experience is anything to go by. The mid event rankings mean nothing as eps don't get spend until the last 2-3 days of event so it doesn't hurt them to give a more precise ranking. Would think that clans rank in 50-150 would be more motivated to spend if they knew they are close.

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Post by Liberator Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:42 am

dreadyfr wrote:Rumor has it they all are beasts

agreed, considering they are 3 of the 4 holy beast in chinese mythology Very Happy

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Post by TrencH Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:13 pm

kyan wrote:
jay wrote:
TrencH wrote:In addition, I beleive everyone who is still in the running is at the top 100. I have not run into anyone who has had a different message (unless they ranked out)
No, clans that aren't in the top 100 got an actual number.

If people knew their ranking in the top 100, I think most of the top 10 would just stop doing the event, and then the company wouldn't make more money. They really needed fewer AAs as prizes.. top 20 clans would've made more sense (from that perspective)

Well, if experience is anything to go by. The mid event rankings mean nothing as eps don't get spend until the last 2-3 days of event so it doesn't hurt them to give a more precise ranking. Would think that clans rank in 50-150 would be more motivated to spend if they knew they are close.

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My wording may have been off but what I was trying to say is that if you did not get the 'in the top 100' you were given a number. Not getting a 1-100 = Ranked out.

Also, its really no secret as to who is on top and who is not and most people at the top are not hiding their numbers simply because they are so laughably huge.

You are always going to have your outliers tho. These outliers are the groups composesd of nothing but people that are at least lvl 100, have a AA+ formation and are probably passing around 2-3 Prog monsters in thier clan.

I see the glass is half full in that scenario tho. You are getting a huge amount of the really high level summoners and packing them in a few clans rather then more of them spread out where ranking would be much more difficult.

They are basically packing up in bunches and clearing the ladder.

There is really no secret to the crystal numbers. I stumble upon chat about numbers all the time browsing ppls pages.

As for making people work if they knew they were close. The best way to get people to spend money and resources in this game is to keep things vague. You know that the elite groups will be on top and you will hear ppl talking about the crystal numbers so that will always help you but if you are not looking for numbers and you are goin by the Ranking list in general you can see it is vague atnd it is vague so that people willl not know for sure if they have enough to have a lock on that AA.

That will make people use more EP for the 'Just in case I am not high enough' people.

I am sure that the uncertainty that is in that list is as intended in order to get people to buy soul points and burn the EP they do have.

Anyway, I admit the above is too wordy but I hope the point comes across...

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Post by The only god Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:36 pm

Actually i am sure there will be unknown clan in the top. but i heard some ppl with only 35-70k crystals where in top 100...
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