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Post by blackbox Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:12 pm

I'm pretty new to the game and still trying to figure it out. I have 4 AA+ and one AAA. I am surprised when I attack a full AA+ team and their monsters all attack first. I thought AAAs always attack before AA+. If someone can provide me any feedback and advice, I'd really appreciate it.

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Post by lennon_68 Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:04 am

Each card has an agility value based on their rank (AA, AA+, EX, AAA, AAA+, check the Wiki for the actual values).  This can be modified by a card with the Agility UP ability or by Relica that affects agility though.  If it's a card's ability you'll see it fire off but if it's agility relica you probably won't see it in the log other than "AGility glistened" or whatever.  Agility relica could be an increase to their AGI, a decrease to your AGI, or a decrease to your winged monsters AGI (that last one actually will show in the battle log)

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Post by blackbox Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:18 am

Hmm interesting.. I was already aware of some relica increasing AGI, but was told they were very rare. Also does each individual monster have an agility value or is it only based by rank?

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Post by ryesteve Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:09 pm

Most monsters of the same rank have the same speed value. Exceptions are rare, so not worth thinking about. I'd be surprised if someone with an AA form had agil relica... more likely there was an agi up monsters in their defensive form.

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Post by blackbox Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:56 pm

Even with agi up shouldn't any AAA attack before an AA+?

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Post by applesauce Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:52 pm

blackbox wrote:Even with agi up shouldn't any AAA attack before an AA+?

no, because otherwise it would be completely pointless to have an agi card.
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Post by blackbox Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:44 pm

Wow.. I thought rank always trumped their agi because they're team was a lower rank. Thanks for clearing that up for me.. guess its no wonder why all the AA+ with agi are expensive. I've never seen any AAA or AAA+ with agi. Do they exist?

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Post by applesauce Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:16 am

there are no AAA/+ with agi, it was maybe possible when rss first came out(unsure about this point), but now its impossible. AAA+ teams uses health up
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Post by blackbox Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:41 am

Oh ok thanks for the feedback applesauce and ryesteve

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Post by Ologolos Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:31 am

technical point, it also depends on the skill level of the agility card. i think it takes around skill level 15 or 16 for an AA to go before AAA, relica aside
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Post by blackbox Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:41 am

Ok cool good the know.. thanks ologolos

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Post by applesauce Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:42 pm

well the math goes like this.

a defending aa/+ team has a default agility of 32
a attacking aa/+ team has a default agility of 34
a defending aaa/+ team has a default agility of 36
a attacking aaa/+ team has a default agility of 38

agility skill works by percentages. also i believe the decimals round down, so 36.04 would be 36(please correct me if im wrong on this), with that assumption i have highlighted at what point the AA/+ team would go first

if AA/+ team attacks (aa/+ default agi = 34, AAA/+ = 36)
agility skill levelEffective agility
1(5%)35.7
2(6%)36.04
3(7%)36.38 
4(8%) 36.72 
5(9%)37.06 
6(10%)37.4 
7(11%)37.74
8(12%)38.08
9(13%) 38.42
10(14%)38.76
11(15%) 39.1
12(16%) 39.44
13(17%)39.78
14(18%)40.12
15(19%)40.46
16(20%) 40.8
17(21%) 41.14
18(22%)41.48
19(23%) 41.82
20(24%)42.16
if AA+ defending (AA/+ default = 32, AAA/+ = 38)

agility skill levelEffective agility
1(5%)33.6
2(6%)33.92
3(7%)34.24
4(8%) 34.56 
5(9%)34.88 
6(10%)35.2
7(11%)35.52
8(12%)35.84
9(13%) 36.16
10(14%)36.48
11(15%) 36.8
12(16%) 37.12
13(17%)37.44
14(18%)37.76
15(19%)38.08
16(20%) 38.4
17(21%) 38.72
18(22%)39.04
19(23%) 39.36
20(24%)39.68
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Post by blackbox Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:36 am

So if I understand right an AA/+ team could attack before an AAA/+ with Agi +18?

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