Building demon sin team
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Building demon sin team
Good afternoon guys,
I'm building atm a Sin Demon team and i've just started this game so i need some assist what to take with my 3 demon combo..
What i have:
Devil of the abyss +
Sear Djinn +
Child of pit+
I was looking for Lord of Faith for Inc PDef, but i'm not sure.. Should i just go for the big guys? Spite+,Devil of endless night+ ? Those are what i would get at the moment.. Is bigger BP just better?
As i said i've just started.. lvl 20 at the moment, so i kind need assist with selecting the special combo
Thanks
I'm building atm a Sin Demon team and i've just started this game so i need some assist what to take with my 3 demon combo..
What i have:
Devil of the abyss +
Sear Djinn +
Child of pit+
I was looking for Lord of Faith for Inc PDef, but i'm not sure.. Should i just go for the big guys? Spite+,Devil of endless night+ ? Those are what i would get at the moment.. Is bigger BP just better?
As i said i've just started.. lvl 20 at the moment, so i kind need assist with selecting the special combo
Thanks
Last edited by Jonsbe on Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:11 pm; edited 1 time in total
Jonsbe- Posts : 24
Join date : 2012-09-12
Age : 36
Location : Finland
Re: Building demon sin team
I just started out in this game too about a couple weeks ago too and learned a lot.
If you get two more demons in general that are A+, you can get
Demon Bonus
Impulse Bonus
Rarity Bonus
Level Bonus
Belzeboss, Kali the Berserker, Gluttony Lord, Blunt Blade Demon, Deep Dark Demon, Devil of Endless Night, Spite, Paimon, and Balrog are all good cards you could fill in for your team. This set up is typically great for new players and midgame.
HOWEVER. You do have the opportunity to go for a larger combo set, otherwise known as the Winged Demon Bonus set. This set has 5 Bonuses, maxing out the highest number you can possibly get (that I'm aware of). This would be the perfect team for end-gaming.
Typically this would include
Devil of the Abyss+
Belzeboss +
Devil of Endless Night+
Deep Dark Devil+
Either: Paimon+ OR Balrog+
You would get the following bonuses
Winged Bonus
Demon Bonus
Rarity Bonus
Impulse Bonus
Level Bonus
You may be wondering why I said either Paimon or Balrog. They both have the Covert Down ability. To my knowledge the skill Covert Down does not stack. So it would benefit you most to have either Paimon or Balrog on your team, but not both.
NOTE: I see that you have 66+ Eps. Before you make any purchases from players, I would highly suggest to check out the Price Checking section of the forum. You will be able to get the most of your EP to build your team effectively without the headache of getting screwed over in trades.
Good Luck! ^_^
If you get two more demons in general that are A+, you can get
Demon Bonus
Impulse Bonus
Rarity Bonus
Level Bonus
Belzeboss, Kali the Berserker, Gluttony Lord, Blunt Blade Demon, Deep Dark Demon, Devil of Endless Night, Spite, Paimon, and Balrog are all good cards you could fill in for your team. This set up is typically great for new players and midgame.
HOWEVER. You do have the opportunity to go for a larger combo set, otherwise known as the Winged Demon Bonus set. This set has 5 Bonuses, maxing out the highest number you can possibly get (that I'm aware of). This would be the perfect team for end-gaming.
Typically this would include
Devil of the Abyss+
Belzeboss +
Devil of Endless Night+
Deep Dark Devil+
Either: Paimon+ OR Balrog+
You would get the following bonuses
Winged Bonus
Demon Bonus
Rarity Bonus
Impulse Bonus
Level Bonus
You may be wondering why I said either Paimon or Balrog. They both have the Covert Down ability. To my knowledge the skill Covert Down does not stack. So it would benefit you most to have either Paimon or Balrog on your team, but not both.
NOTE: I see that you have 66+ Eps. Before you make any purchases from players, I would highly suggest to check out the Price Checking section of the forum. You will be able to get the most of your EP to build your team effectively without the headache of getting screwed over in trades.
Good Luck! ^_^
Xoct- Posts : 86
Join date : 2012-08-30
Re: Building demon sin team
One thing to note: The winged demon formation mentioned above lacks agility. Agility is fairly helpful in battles with other players (impulse = high atk, but lower def/health) since it allows you to strike first when upgraded. So, if you want to keep the pit+ you have, and keep the agility skill in your team, you won't need to focus on winged. In that case, you probably want to look at Spite+.
Spite Devil Mage has Decrease Enemy Attack, and a very solid attacker (almost 8k attack for 23 bp at lvl 70). Devil of Endless Night is still a good purchase since it has decrease enemy defense (also helpful for first strike). Endless is probably cheaper in EP cost than the new Flame Kagutsuchi, who is the unwinged, 30bp -def demon, though if you're not going for the winged combo, it might be worth a few more EP for flame kag (7 bp for another 1k attack pre-combo). Asura is the unwinged version of abyss, weighing in at 22bp (abyss is 16) but is fairly rare/pricey and might be a better long-term upgrade (again, about 1k attack pre-combo).
Since you have 66 ep on hand, you might start with a balrog+ (or paimon+) and spite+ if you were planning on sticking with non-winged agility demon team, and depending on how well your purchasing goes, replace the sear with an endless or flame kag.
For reference, right now I'm running:
Balrog+
Endless+
Spite+
Asura+
Pit+
The last thing to consider, especially while still leveling, is the BP cost of your team - make sure you put enough skill points into BP to be able to run your team! Winged demons (with the same skill) are cheaper in BP than their non-winged counterpart.
Spite Devil Mage has Decrease Enemy Attack, and a very solid attacker (almost 8k attack for 23 bp at lvl 70). Devil of Endless Night is still a good purchase since it has decrease enemy defense (also helpful for first strike). Endless is probably cheaper in EP cost than the new Flame Kagutsuchi, who is the unwinged, 30bp -def demon, though if you're not going for the winged combo, it might be worth a few more EP for flame kag (7 bp for another 1k attack pre-combo). Asura is the unwinged version of abyss, weighing in at 22bp (abyss is 16) but is fairly rare/pricey and might be a better long-term upgrade (again, about 1k attack pre-combo).
Since you have 66 ep on hand, you might start with a balrog+ (or paimon+) and spite+ if you were planning on sticking with non-winged agility demon team, and depending on how well your purchasing goes, replace the sear with an endless or flame kag.
For reference, right now I'm running:
Balrog+
Endless+
Spite+
Asura+
Pit+
The last thing to consider, especially while still leveling, is the BP cost of your team - make sure you put enough skill points into BP to be able to run your team! Winged demons (with the same skill) are cheaper in BP than their non-winged counterpart.
tjwitz- Posts : 105
Join date : 2012-08-09
Re: Building demon sin team
I've got a maxed Deep Dark Demon if you are interested in grabbing it. Dodge skill is only at (1). I just picked up the new event A too, so i'll have another demon (to be decided later) that I'll drop from my team. If you are interested in spending EP to get lvl 70 demons, get a price check from the thread (or general osf) and I can sell them to you!
Deemo- Posts : 250
Join date : 2012-05-31
Age : 111
Location : Canada
Re: Building demon sin team
I'm infact trying to do a non-winged combo at start, as i started to love agility pit+
I'm leaning towards Spite+ and Endless Night due lower cost in BP(or am i just nuts?) as i like to level up faster.. And lower cost overall..
So do you have any Spite+ & Endless night+ lvl 1 laying around ?
Price check thread gave EP's of Spite+=6 and for Endless+=8
And i'm looking forward to level up my own monsters, not just autobuy my way up if you know what i mean..
Thanks for everyone for their advices!
I'm leaning towards Spite+ and Endless Night due lower cost in BP(or am i just nuts?) as i like to level up faster.. And lower cost overall..
So do you have any Spite+ & Endless night+ lvl 1 laying around ?
Price check thread gave EP's of Spite+=6 and for Endless+=8
And i'm looking forward to level up my own monsters, not just autobuy my way up if you know what i mean..
Thanks for everyone for their advices!
Jonsbe- Posts : 24
Join date : 2012-09-12
Age : 36
Location : Finland
Re: Building demon sin team
Hmm your price seems a little off. Believe spite and endless+ has gone up from there. Particularly spite. It was event limited and has a very high attack for an A+. Flame is very cheap atm you could have gotten a plus for 8-10 if your'e lucky but it will go up after the event.
Kyan
Kyan
kyan- Posts : 949
Join date : 2012-04-29
Re: Building demon sin team
There is a guy selling flame kag right now for 5ep per. if you can find his wall post spams, hit it up while the price is low
Deemo- Posts : 250
Join date : 2012-05-31
Age : 111
Location : Canada
Re: Building demon sin team
I ended up with Flame K and Spite with my combo as for now. Maybe i'll beat lvl 20's with these
Spite+,
Flame Kag+
Abyss+
Djinn+
Pit+
Now i'm off to level them and those skills
I really appreciate your help, thank you!
Spite+,
Flame Kag+
Abyss+
Djinn+
Pit+
Now i'm off to level them and those skills
I really appreciate your help, thank you!
Jonsbe- Posts : 24
Join date : 2012-09-12
Age : 36
Location : Finland
Re: Building demon sin team
I would recommend leveling spite+ first as it has the highest attack in your team and would remain in your team even if you replace others. With pit+ and flame kag+, try to skill level it first while you level spite+ to save a bit on gold cost. Having one maxed level A+ monster is much better than several partially level so I would concentrate on one instead of spreading it around.
Good luck,
Kyan
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Good luck,
Kyan
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Last edited by kyan on Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:07 am; edited 1 time in total
kyan- Posts : 949
Join date : 2012-04-29
Re: Building demon sin team
kyan wrote:I would recommend leveling spite+ first as it has the highest attack in your team and would remain in your team even if you replace others. With pit+ and flame kag+, try to skill level it first while you level spite+ to save a bit on gold cost. Having one maxed level A+ monster is much better than several partially level so I would concentrate on one instead of spreading it around.
Good luck,
Kyan
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Oh so reaching the level bonus is out of boundaries? I was about to level everyone to 20 and go from there, but it's more efficient to level up one at a time?
Jonsbe- Posts : 24
Join date : 2012-09-12
Age : 36
Location : Finland
Re: Building demon sin team
Personally I think its better to have one maxed monster than multiple mid-low range ones. The level bonus is great but you can get it at maxed level. Slowing level them to keep the bonus is not worth it imho. Around 20, one maxed monster will allow you to take on most team you'll encounter. This also allows you to look for upgrades without having to spend resource to level something that you'll replace in the long run anyway.
Good luck,
Kyan
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Good luck,
Kyan
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kyan- Posts : 949
Join date : 2012-04-29
Re: Building demon sin team
yes, i concur, spite+ is currently the second highest attack A+ demon after balrog, so adding him in there was a smart move. if you have the resources for it, i would recommend that you replace abyss with asura and djinn with, you guessed it, balrog. between all of those, you'll have the highest attack sin demons of rank A+, and a nice set of skills too. also, i too subscribe to the idea that trying to keep the level bonus isn't crucial, you can get that at max lvl anyway. 5% attack is less than what you would gain by maxing even just 1 of your monsters, lol.
dream sin demon team, rank a+:
Balrog+ max
Spite+ max
Flame Kag+ max
Asura+ max
Pit+ max
that's covert down, -atk, -def, +atk, and agi, on the highest attack demons of the rank, lol.
dream sin demon team, rank a+:
Balrog+ max
Spite+ max
Flame Kag+ max
Asura+ max
Pit+ max
that's covert down, -atk, -def, +atk, and agi, on the highest attack demons of the rank, lol.
Armitaage- Posts : 1264
Join date : 2012-08-26
Age : 39
Re: Building demon sin team
Wow, this was an awesome post! Thanks for giving us all amazing information on the current sets!
Fuchango- Posts : 27
Join date : 2012-05-10
Age : 42
Location : MN
Re: Building demon sin team
Thanks Armitaage, i'll do as told ^^
Jonsbe- Posts : 24
Join date : 2012-09-12
Age : 36
Location : Finland
Re: Building demon sin team
I was looking for this kind of info, thanks
mjshamone- Posts : 21
Join date : 2012-09-13
Location : UK
Re: Building demon sin team
lol, xoct, you've put the team i described in your sig, i see.
Armitaage- Posts : 1264
Join date : 2012-08-26
Age : 39
Re: Building demon sin team
Armitaage wrote:lol, xoct, you've put the team i described in your sig, i see.
Of course! I thought after had completing this team since a few days after your post, I ought to design a sig. You inspired me to make this formation a reality. I must say this group of demons work wonders
As of now:
Asura+ Max IPA(5)
Balrog+ Max CD(5)
Spite+ 32 DEA(9)
Kag+ 18 DED(5)
Pit+ 14 Agility(5)
Xoct- Posts : 86
Join date : 2012-08-30
Re: Building demon sin team
my sin demon team is as follow:
spite devil mage+
flame kag+
asura+
balrog+
lord of faith+
i didnt use child of pit+, instead i want the skill of increase party attack,,,
spite devil mage+
flame kag+
asura+
balrog+
lord of faith+
i didnt use child of pit+, instead i want the skill of increase party attack,,,
ludwig- Posts : 2
Join date : 2012-10-01
Re: Building demon sin team
asura has increase party attack already, and that skill doesn't stack, lol. Agi you get from pit is better than that dark lord. Unless the asura you have has been slill changed?
btw, here's my current form:
sdm+m s11
den+m s6
flame kag+m s5
asura+m s20
pit+64 s10
i keep den because i don't have balrog and because her skill is a bit higher than flame kag's
btw, here's my current form:
sdm+m s11
den+m s6
flame kag+m s5
asura+m s20
pit+64 s10
i keep den because i don't have balrog and because her skill is a bit higher than flame kag's
Armitaage- Posts : 1264
Join date : 2012-08-26
Age : 39
Re: Building demon sin team
Armitaage wrote:asura has increase party attack already, and that skill doesn't stack, lol. Agi you get from pit is better than that dark lord. Unless the asura you have has been slill changed?
btw, here's my current form:
sdm+m s11
den+m s6
flame kag+m s5
asura+m s20
pit+64 s10
i keep den because i don't have balrog and because her skill is a bit higher than flame kag's
Trade Endless+m for Paimon+m and ep. You'll get more attack out it and ep to boot. Endless price has risen significantly since the days when she was first release and the market was flooded with it.
Kyan
kyan- Posts : 949
Join date : 2012-04-29
Re: Building demon sin team
I'm keeping endless more for her skill, and I actually have a paimon reg, lol, along with a pit+m(3) and a pit+1(1). I have some monsters I can trade for some ep, I'm just waiting for the right moment.
Armitaage- Posts : 1264
Join date : 2012-08-26
Age : 39
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