More Big Changes

zzz1998 wrote:
Yes, next step is that progs won't be tradable until after the event so only players who spend money can win the event.

and thats when i quit lol, the biggest draw for the game was you can get ahead by being smart, money(helpful but) is not strictly necessary. i would be fine with spending some money for that extra boost but being force to, to make the game playable at all is a whole other issue

overseer07 wrote:Don't ever think you're more than a number in a database to them.

Oh, I'm sure if you're a real high roller, they'll at least comp you a handy-J.

pp who usually rank on event (and most of us) dont spend $ on this game, theyre just use EP to buy Skill rs
now the skill rs wont be tradable, theyre just need to rs ally to redistribute the point
the cutoff to rank will be lower, so i think the game wont change at all

bacsiha wrote:pp who usually rank on event (and most of us) dont spend $ on this game

And God forbid they should have to start. It's way better if they're able to continue to leech off the people who DO put money into the game.

I don't really care who does or does not put money into the game or who quits just as long asiI can okay that way I want to play...then I am a happy camper

For every current player that quits due to dissatisfaction about changes, there are X number of new players who have no idea anything changed, or what changes mean for the DS economy. Some of those players are still going to be big spenders, and will probably make up for any who may have quit... DS is still an extremely addictive game, especially when you're a new player with high aspirations of ranking, or getting strong monsters, or whatever your end game.

Ologolos wrote:For every current player that quits due to dissatisfaction about changes, there are X number of new players who have no idea anything changed, or what changes mean for the DS economy. Some of those players are still going to be big spenders, and will probably make up for any who may have quit... DS is still an extremely addictive game, especially when you're a new player with high aspirations of ranking, or getting strong monsters, or whatever your end game.

but wouldn't a good game KEEP the old players and continue to attract more?

A lot of the recent updates are absolutely horrible for newer (and medium time) players like the no more gold trade... the whole battle formation thing. (because face it, when you don't have a full AA team, you really need to pick and choose who you're fighting. which is now pretty much impossible. the battle button might as well start a random battle with a random person because the "list" with everyone having C monsters in their main formation is totally useless). and seriously... no more trading ml+? who was even trading ml+? It's just to help out new players, and they're taking that away from who knows what arbitrary reason. I don't think they even try to rationalize all this with reasons.

It's not "I'm doing A because of B" where B can be argued for or against

it's just

"A lol, deal with it"


idk how they expect this to make money... Sure the big spenders will keep spending, so long as there is reason to. If they make the game so shitty for new players that everyone but the "top" 1000 quit. then those "top 1000" aren't even going to buy any more because there would be no need to for lack of competition.

it all just reeks of a short grift. let's grab as much money as we can before they figure out what we're doing! damn the consequences.

JessicaMD wrote: no more trading ml+? who was even trading ml+? It's just to help out new players, and they're taking that away from who knows what arbitrary reason.

I think it is their attempts to curb the wildfire spread of virtual machines and loads of bogus accounts. When I got bored and made a psycho account I cranked out 20 levels with the free myEP and had a bunch of ml+ sitting there. I was deleting the account anyways but I can see how people making 10+ VMs will end up with a ton of ml+ and can send them to all their fake accounts.

I'm sure they realized when they went from 4mil to 5mil downloads in a month...someone said 'durf must be fake accounts, methinks'

I still don't know how or why anyone would have that many VM fake accounts, and what purpose it would serve, possibly farming a ton of gold (attacking their main to transfer it) etc etc...

The skill reset is baffling. If I use a $50 gift card to but 2x resets and sell them for 100ep, vs buying just pure ep, in the end who cares? They still get the $50...

so confusing.

Scratch102 wrote:I think it is their attempts to curb the wildfire spread of virtual machines and loads of bogus accounts.

Bingo

Scratch102 wrote:I still don't know how or why anyone would have that many VM fake accounts

These idiotic ally campaign rewards are probably 98% to blame.

Scratch102 wrote:
The skill reset is baffling. If I use a $50 gift card to but 2x resets and sell them for 100ep, vs buying just pure ep, in the end who cares? They still get the $50...
so confusing.

You're forgetting that the guy who would've traded you the 100ep now has to buy his own resets. More sales.

ryesteve wrote:
And God forbid they should have to start. It's way better if they're able to continue to leech off the people who DO put money into the game.

in what way are players who dont pay to play leeching? did anyone force you to pay so other people can have stuff? are non-player cheating? is paying somehow making spenders morally superior to folks who dont pay?

I predict they lower the soul point cost of skill resets slightly once they no longer can be traded.

applesauce wrote:

ryesteve wrote:
And God forbid they should have to start. It's way better if they're able to continue to leech off the people who DO put money into the game.

in what way are players who dont pay to play leeching? did anyone force you to pay so other people can have stuff? are non-player cheating? is paying somehow making spenders morally superior to folks who dont pay?

Rye just has his panties in a twist because smart people can be free and still compete with the money he throws at...I mean wastes...on this game, QQ little boy QQ

Don't act like you know anything about me, just because I'm not hitching a ride on your "A Team won't let me leech off noobs anymore" waaaambulance

ryesteve wrote:Don't act like you know anything about me, just because I'm not hitching a ride on your "A Team won't let me leech off noobs anymore" waaaambulance

I haven't even logged into the game for months, these changes make no difference to me. Considering your previous statement about leechers vs. spenders it's pretty obvious you drop cash on this game, and that's all I need to know to validate my previous post. Also, for the record, IF I were still playing, there is NOTHING A-Team could do (outside of charging a subscription fee to login) to stop me from "leeching" or "cheating" or whatever you'd call it and just owning their game.

Why are you equating "leeching" with "cheating"? Try considering the actual definition of the word. It's an accurate description of the relationship between the top players and the bottom players. Calling it what it is implies NOTHING about me, other than the fact I'm willing to be honest about it.

Also, concluding that I'm the one with my "panties in a bunch" calls into question your perspective, since I was basically telling everyone else to stop whining about these changes. Apparently, I'm one of the few here who is wedgie-free. So, maybe you should stop projecting, especially since, like you said, you don't play anymore, and even if you did, none of this would matter to you. So just stop acting like it DOES matter so much to you.

JessicaMD wrote:
A lot of the recent updates are absolutely horrible for newer (and medium time) players like the no more gold trade... the whole battle formation thing. (because face it, when you don't have a full AA team, you really need to pick and choose who you're fighting. which is now pretty much impossible. the battle button might as well start a random battle with a random person because the "list" with everyone having C monsters in their main formation is totally useless).

At level ~50, almost no one is showing a single C monster. And the few who have are actually people who quit. So the battle formation changes have no effect on low level players.

From my view, a change happen to everybody means no-change for me.

Skill rs untradable ? Progs untradable ? Who care ? I dont think all 500 pp top event ranking will pay money to get those stuff.

And i think ateam is very kind (not sure, maybe theyre idiot) when give free ds usually. When they give us 3 free DS , that mean 300 free ds to me

Full AA+m team can be made without any $

Let me guess....





Am I right, or am I right.

bacsiha wrote:
And i think ateam is very kind (not sure, maybe theyre idiot) when give free ds usually. When they give us 3 free DS , that mean 300 free ds to me

Say what?? Do you have 100 alt accounts or something? If so... holy $#!T
LOL that's a lot of Dark Summoner

All the changes so far have been perfectly fine. Especially the battle formations.

If they make progs untradeable, they need to up the rate at which they appear in free Dark Summons or that will be the end of the game for a vast majority of players. Being one of the ones that doesn't mind spending $25 here and there on the game, I will not spend $25 a week in hopes to get an untradeable prog.

I don't see that happening.



BTW, all this QQ'n over the changes, how about the tons and tons of rewards from the last two events? Where's the thanks for those?



On second thought, with the enormous amounts of evolution souls entering the game, untradeable progs...could be on the way

Bobertson wrote:On second thought, with the enormous amounts of evolution souls entering the game, untradeable progs...could be on the way

That, or they're trying to make AAs more accessible to lower level players so they can make AAAs tradeable and, eventually, reveal the S rank cards )

bacsiha wrote:
When they give us 3 free DS , that mean 300 free ds to me

Full AA+m team can be made without any $

Ahh I get it. You claim that you've spent $0 on the game but you're running 100 Virtual Machines ...

rrrrright.

100 alts? We can do better than that. First, you have to hack into Google. Then, install DS emulators on all of the servers (a couple hundred thousand). Lastly, write bots that auto farm raid crystals and send them to your main.

In a couple weeks, post your 30 million raid 2 crystals on auction...

Who said that 100 vms? im not crazy lol

Its totally different between 100 alt and 100 vms