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Post by Isamaru5862 Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:43 pm

Isamaru's Trading Corner
New Players Only Section (Skip if you know how to trade):
This is a section devoted to new players interested in trading. I will do my best to be fair, patient, and honest. If, however, you fail to read the rules and follow instructions you will be ignored so please follow directions. Below is a list of acronyms associated with trading you must know.

Acronyms / Terms:
EP: Energy Potion
BP: Battle Potion
Stack: One Monster with a skill of 4. Example would be Alluring Black Wings+ with DED (Decrease Enemy Defense) 4
(#): Any number with a () around it means the monsters skill level.


Introduction:
In ITC all trades are based on the EP currency. All comparisons, therefor, are based on EP. If you wish to trade in other currency such as BP, Gold, Stacks, A, A+, AA, or AA+ the trade will be subject to EP Conversion rates listed under the conversion section.




How To Make A Successful Trade:
Step 1: Add Isamaru to Ally list. ID: 2302357281
Step 2: Send a trade with your current offer and include in comment what you are looking for.
Step 3: If your offer is rejected I will send a counter offer.
Step 4: If you reject my counter then send me a message with what you want and what you have to trade and we will work out a fair deal.

If you are trading with me I expect you to understand the value of your items just as you should expect me to know the value of mine. With that being said, low-balling will get you ignored.





*What I am looking for*

AA or AA+:
Dragons

A or A+:
Dragon of Jupiter
Dragon of Mercury
Raging Vritra

Skill packs:
Agility Up (1) 5:1EP
Agility Up (4) 1:2EP
Increase Party Attack (1) 5:1EP
Increase Party Attack (4) 1:2EP
Decrease Enemy Defense (1) 5:1EP
Decrease Enemy Defense (4) 1:2EP
Decrease Enemy Attack (1) 5:1EP
Decrease Enemy Attack (4) 1:2EP
Covert/Impulse Down (1) 5:1EP
Covert/Impulse Down (4) 1:2EP



Currency Conversions:
Raid Crystals 18:1EP
BP 3:1EP
Gold 150K:1EP
All Skills not counting (Slumbering breath, Poisonous Breath and Preemptive Strike) 5:1EP

All Stacks not counting (Slumbering breath, Poisonous Breath and Preemptive Strike) 1:2EP


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Current Trade Stock
Last Updated Nov 28 2012



Impulse/Sin:

AA / AA+
NONE ATM

A / A+
Paimon lvl1 (1)
Crimson Lion Guard+ lvl1 (None)
Beelzebub lvl1 (1)
Child of Pit lvl1 (1)
Pabilsag lvl1 (None)
Red Brawn Golem lvl1 (1)
Shadow Soul Knight lvl1 (None)
Skeleton Minotaur lvl7 (1)






Psycho/Tyranny

AA / AA+
NONE ATM

A / A+
Crystal Dragon+ lvl1 (1)
Elf Commander+ lvl1 (1)
Evilmoth lvl7 (1)
Lord Of Massacre+ lvl7 (None)
Slaughter Bee Queen lvl1 (1)
Tiamut lvl1 (1)
White Brawn Golem lvl1 (1)
White Winged Elite lvl1 (1)






Covert/Rancor

AA / AA+
NONE ATM

A / A+
Quetzalcoatl+ lvl4 (1)
Quetzalcoatl lvl23 (1)
Lindwurm+ lvl1 (1)
Tamamo-no-Mae+ lvl1 (1)
Sprout Dragon lvl1 (None)
Dashing Mantis lvl12 (None)
Elite Dragonborn lvl12 (1)
Horned Veteran lvl7 (1)
Hydra lvl1 (1)
Creep Lord lvl1 (None)
Naga General lvl9 (1)
Naga lvl1 (1)
Scatter Host lvl1 (1)


Current Packs / partial packs
CRU (3) x1
DEA (1) x1
DED (2) x1

Current Souls
Soul of Wisdom B+ x1

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Contact Info:
User Name: Isamaru
Game ID: 2302357281
Skype Name: Isamaru5862


Last edited by Isamaru5862 on Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:33 am; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : Update 11-28-2012)

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Post by theimprisoned Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:52 pm

I have Quetzalcoatl Jupiter and Mercury all reg if you still want them
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Post by Isamaru5862 Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:45 am

Bump!!!

Sorry to anyone that I didn't get a chance to trade with due to my 3 day excursion. Checking every few hours now so should be much quicker.

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Post by qpwoalsk Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:04 am

lol yes a place to scam new players
Agility Up (1) 5:1EP
Agility Up (4) 1:2EP
Increase Party Attack (1) 5:1EP
Increase Party Attack (4) 1:2EP
Decrease Enemy Defense (1) 5:1EP
Decrease Enemy Defense (4) 1:2EP
Decrease Enemy Attack (1) 5:1EP
Decrease Enemy Attack (4) 1:2EP
Covert/Impulse Down (1) 5:1EP
Covert/Impulse Down (4) 1:2EP

all these prices are way lower than what these skills are worth
for example go on ranking leader boards and u can easily sell impulse down (4) for 4 ep a stack

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Post by Isamaru5862 Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:28 am

qpwoalsk wrote:lol yes a place to scam new players
Agility Up (1) 5:1EP
Agility Up (4) 1:2EP
Increase Party Attack (1) 5:1EP
Increase Party Attack (4) 1:2EP
Decrease Enemy Defense (1) 5:1EP
Decrease Enemy Defense (4) 1:2EP
Decrease Enemy Attack (1) 5:1EP
Decrease Enemy Attack (4) 1:2EP
Covert/Impulse Down (1) 5:1EP
Covert/Impulse Down (4) 1:2EP

all these prices are way lower than what these skills are worth
for example go on ranking leader boards and u can easily sell impulse down (4) for 4 ep a stack



Interesting that you say I am scamming people by having a
low value on skills when, in reality, I am simply valuing the skills at their
accurate value.

Here is the required math to understand my logic:





Acquiring skills:


The most efficient way to farm for
skills is to farm crystals that require 1 Energy per piece to make. To clarify,
there are 6 pieces required to make one crystal and each piece is around a 25%
chance to be found. It takes around 4 Energy to find one piece and 6 pieces to
make one Crystal so it takes around 24 Energy to make one crystal. There is a
33% chance of getting ether a rank B Summon, 10,000G or a lord card. Based on
this logic it will take you around 3 crystals to get 1 rank B summon. Each B
summon has around a 50% chance of getting a random skill. There are 16 skills
you could possibly get from a rank B summon and only 3 of them are less wanted:
Slumbering breath, Poisonous Breath and Preemptive strike. So based on this,
you have an 18.75% chance of getting something you can’t sell right away.


Now that we have our basic
conversion rates for Energy lets figure out effectiveness of 1 EP per level and
the break-even point for one EP. Each Player gains 3 points per level that can
be spent on EP and the amount of EP required to break even for skills is 720.
Based on my current rate of progression I should break even at level 201. This
would mean that my original calculations for individual skills are off since the
average player is around level 100. Amending my EP to 2 per 5 instead of 1 per
five would make 360 Energy the breaking point which is easily obtained at level
100 even with some points going into BP. Now that is to break even. If you plan
on making a EP profit you must be making more EP then you spend (Obviously).


According to Shaneth21, at level
83, as shown on his video, Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3odFNpQXaw
you can get up to 515 Energy at lvl 83 and, based on the 3 points per level,
you can obtain upwards of 566 Energy by the time you hit 100. Spending 2 EP at
this stage nets you 1 EP profit (Calculations: 3 EP = 1080 Energy Spending 2 EP
at level 100 nets you 1132 Energy which is 52 Energy above cost.).


In short, People who charge more than
2EP for a stack of skills is simply over pricing and people who pay that amount
are simply over playing.


I would also like to point out I
left out all the gold you make from the extra non skilled cards you get / 10k
gold procs you get. At 150K gold per EP I would say you make a ton of profit
even if you break even on skills.





My Stats:


Level 39
234 Energy
120 Battle Points
31 Achievements
28 Allies


Value 1:


24 Energy = 1 Crystal


Value 2:


3 Crystals = 1 Rank B summon


Value 3:


72 Energy = 1 Rank B summon


Value 4:


2 Rank B summons = 1 Random Skill


Value 5:


144 Energy = 1 Random Skill


Value 6:


6 Crystals = 1 Random Skill


Value 7:


1EP = 5 Random Skills


Value 8:


720 Energy = 1EP



BTW thanks for giving me the motivation to calculate this all out and post it. Hope you learned not to accuse people of scamming new players without actual proof other then "Some other people are selling it at this price."

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Post by dnedaed Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:45 am

LOL Nice. I would say this is very moving argument. . I will not pay more then 2 ep per stack. So I am on board. but i would rather trade or make them my self. but impulse/ covert down stacks are hard to make, those are under valued. and the singles . the find rate is a lot lower due to the select number only of monsters that have them. and sometime agility stacks are a pain I have paid 3 for them,

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