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Post by Galaxy80 Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:45 am

Hey everyone. I'm pretty new to the game and really new to buying/selling/trading. I just joined this forum today. I spent $200 on soul points last night and did 4 11x dark summons and got a retarded amount of monsters that I am now trying to get rid of. I posted my list in the stores forum and was wondering if anyone could give me some price estimates on some of my higher BP monsters. I don't want to post them all here because I have so many and don't want to flood this forum. I'm just curious to know what my high BP monsters are worth so I don't screw anyone or get screwed myself. I appreciate any help anyone can give me. Thank you!

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Post by larry378 Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:55 am

Null value (<1-1, nearly impossible to sell)
Blood Blob A 1 Slumbering Breath(1) 10
Blood Blob+ A+ 36 Slumbering Breath(2) 10
Hydra A 3 Venomous Breath(4) 16
Hydra A 1 Venomous Breath(1) 16
Dark Elf Berserker A 1 Preemptive Strike(1) 11
Dark Elf Berserker A 1 Preemptive Strike(1) 11
Dark Elf Berserker A 1 Preemptive Strike(1) 11
Dark Elf Berserker+ A+ 50 Preemptive Strike(1) 11
Pure Dark Embodiment A 34 None 11
Lord Of Gluttony+ A+ 1 None 10
Pablisag A 1 None 17
Pablisag A 1 None 17
Pablisag A 1 None 17
Red Brawn Golem A 1 Undead Down(1) 25
Fire Core A 5 Critical Rate Up(4) 21
Great Horned Warrior A 1 Preemptive Strike(1) 10
Great Horned Warrior A 1 Preemptive Strike(1) 10
Great Horned Warrior+ A+ 1 Preemptive Strike(1) 10
Uncouth Child A 1 Critical Rate Up(1) 13
Uncouth Child+ A+ 1 Critical Rate Up(1) 13
Uncouth Child+ A+ 49 Critical Rate Up(2) 13
Naga A 1 Slumbering Breath(1) 14
Naga A 1 Slumbering Breath(1) 14
Naga+ A+ 1 Slumbering Breath(1) 14
Naga+ A+ 2 Slumbering Breath(1) 14
Slaughter Bee Queen A 1 Preemptive Strike(1) 11
Child of Purification A 1 Slumbering Breath(1) 13
Child of Purification+ A+ 1 Slumbering Breath(1) 13
Child of Purification+ A+ 5 Slumbering Breath(4) 13
Fafnir A 1 Critical Rate Up(1) 14
Fafnir A 1 Critical Rate Up(1) 14
Fafnir+ A+ 47 Critical Rate Up(1) 14
Shock Tarasque A 2 Increase Party Defense(2) 18
Spear Knight Gillman A 1 None 19
Catoblepas A 1 None 17
Grieving Mandrake+ A+ 1 Preemptive Strike(1) 16
Grieving Mandrake+ A+ 1 Preemptive Strike(1) 16

1ep liquid assets (should be relatively easy to sell)
Beelzebub A 1 VenomousBreath(1) 14
Beelzebub A 1 VenomousBreath(1) 14
Beelzebub A 1 VenomousBreath(1) 14
Beelzebub+ A+ 3 VenomousBreath(3) 14
Wretched Black Wing A 1 None 16
Hellfire Talos+ A+ 1 Critical Rate Up(1) 16
Hellfire Talos A 1 None 16
Toukotsu+ A+ 1 Heal(1) 18
Ancient Huge Statue A 1 None 19
Time Void Golem A 1 Increase Party Attack(1) 20
Time Void Golem A 1 Increase Party Attack(1) 20
Time Void Golem A 1 Increase Party Attack(1) 20
Berserker Mite A 1 Psycho Down(1) 21
Berserker Mite A 1 Psycho Down(1) 21

2ep mons
Lindwurm A 1 Agility Up(1) 19
Centaurus A 1 None 17
Unruly Cell A 1 None 16
Reckless Cell A 6 Decrease Enemy Defense(5) 16
Sear Djinn A 1 Preemptive Strike(1) 16
Dragon Of Mars+ A+ 2 Brute Down(2) 16
Dragon of Pluto+ A+ 3 Beast Down(2) 16
Blood Blush Vanessa+ A+ 1 Decrease Enemy Defense (1) 16
Stream Rusalka A 1 None 16
Blade Giant A 1 None 18
Living Torture A 1 Brute Down(1) 18
Dragon of Saturn+ A+ 5 Undead Down(1) 22
Elite Dragonborn A 1 Increase Party Defense(1) 20
Elite Dragonborn+ A+ 7 Increase Party Defense(5) 20
Naga General A 1 Preemptive Strike(1) 20
Lost Woods Leshy A 1 Venomous Breath(1) 20
Lost Woods Leshy+ A+ 1 Venomous Breath(1) 20
Dragon of Mercury A 1 Creation Down(1) 22
Kyuuki A 1 None 18
Crimson Lion Guardian+ A+ 1 None 19
Crimson Lion Guardian A 1 None 19
Ring Dragon A 1 None 19
Blood Flame Colossus A 1 Preemptive Strike(1) 25
Blood Flame Colossus A 1 Preemptive Strike(1) 25
Blood-Suck Rampage Fly A 1 None 18
Scatter Host A 1 Beast Down(1) 18

3-4ep
Rot Cast AA 9 None 16
Devil Of The Abyss A 1 Increase Party Attack(1) 16
Devil Of The Abyss A 1 Increase Party Attack(1) 16
Hideous Meat Fiend A 1 Creation Down(1) 18
Asaroth The Accuser A 1 Preemptive Strike(1) 20
Ghoul Warrior+ A+ 20 Increase Dodge Rate(1) 26
Meatbag Zombie A 1 None 35
Sprout Dragon A 1 None 16

5-6
Mad Lion Barbarian+ A+ 1 Preemptive Strike(1) 26

6-7ep
Paimon A 1 Covert Down(1) 21
Berserker Skull Hunter A 1 None 34
Blue Steel Devil A 1 None 35

10ep
White Wing Sky Pirate A 1 Increase Party Defense(1) 23
White Wing Sky Pirate A 3 Increase Party Defense(2) 23

12ep
Hellfield Devil Asura A 1 None 22


Please Note These are competitive market averages for what happens in ranked
trades. These are by no means minimum or maximum pricing guidelines.
There is no guarantee of sale if you dispense your goods for rates lower
than listed, and there is always a chance you can sucker someone
inexperienced into buying something at double or triple these values.
Monster value is heavily linked to demand, and demand varies from person
to person.

Your most valuable monsters are Asura, WWSP, Paimon,
and things like Berserker Mite, and living torture, red brawn etc...;
because there is constant demand for Asuras; sin being the largest
guild, demons being the most popular formation, and Asura being the
strongest sin demon around. WWSP is popular for winged psycho brutes
which is not an incredibly strong, but an incredibly efficient
battle formation which is great for ranking, Paimon is a poular balrog
surrogate since it's half the price, and a pretty good sin demon to
boot. the ____ Down skills (psy, imp, cov, various species) are
frequently bought for skilling up monsters that use them, and are valued
at around 2:1 to 1:1 skill:ep

The most important thing to keep
in mind in this game when it comes to trading is liquidity. There are
monsters that are certainly rare, limited in distribution, etc... but
are essentially worthless if you can't find anybody who wants to buy
one. e.g. Forsaken Birth Fiend is a sin mystic, a pretty cool looking
monster, with above average stats, which many people will not even
accept as a 1ep analogue in a trade because they are going to have an
impossible time getting any return on it in the future. Why is that?
Because there is no sin mystic formation. High level gameplay is all
about combos. Species combo being the highest percentage increase
yielding one of all. Thus, the demand for FBF is null, so while it
certainly is a nice little monster. it's worthless.

Paying
attention to what the popular high-end formations are will give you a
terrific perspective on liquidity and value of monsters. I'm not going
to list every single one of them here, but they are all thoroughly
documented somewhere on the forums
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Post by Galaxy80 Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:49 pm

Wow! Thank you so much for that very detailed reply! I REALLY appreciate it! It's a little discouraging seeing how little my monsters are worth though. I doubt if it makes a difference, but I finally got some gold and evolved all of my double A's to A+'s.

I now have a White Winged Sky Pirate+, Abyss+, and Colossus+. But now when I get people asking how much I want for certain monsters, I can give them a fair price and know that neither of us will be getting screwed. I'm not the kind of person to rip off anyone.

I have sold a good bit of skill monsters already. DED, DEA, IPD, IPA, Agility Up, Health Up, and a few covert downs. Most of which were A and A+ monsters under 16bp. I've sold the def/Att for 4:1 and agil/health 2:1. I wish people would buy slumbering/venomous breath, preemptive, and critical up. I've tried 5:1 with no luck.

I spent $200 last night on soul points and did about 4 11x dark summons. I got some really awesome monsters, including 2 AAs. Formless Nyar and Fate Colossus, Urth. I think I will hold on to my higher BP monsters and level them to max then try to sell them. I know that maxed monsters bring in much more EPs.

Once again, thank you SO much for your help! I didn't think I would get this much, if any. I apologize for springing such a large list on you.

Thanks!
Garrette

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Post by larry378 Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:32 pm

woah, I though fate was unsummonable.

I think think they're tweaking the unsummonable tables somewhat, because I've been getting reports from people in clan that they're summoning asuras, which are supposed to unsummonable (past event prog)

No problem on the list. I just set up the categories and copy-pasted blocks to the relevant categories.

Congratulations on the AAs!
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Post by Galaxy80 Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:47 pm

Thanks!

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