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Post by Wingweaver on Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:37 pm

So i started it this morning and was surprised when i put in 10 tickets and got 45 points for a complete win, i put in 2 after that and got 16. WTF? why is it worth it to put in 10 tickets and get 4.5 per ticket when i can put in 2 and get 8 per ticket? what are the other ratios?

Note: After 10 wins, 2 tickets still only gives me 16 points.


Tickets : Points
1:9 = 9 per ticket
2:16 = 8 per ticket
3:23 = 7.6 per ticket
4:?
5:34 = 6.8 per ticket
6:?
7:?
7:?
8:?
9:?
10:45 = 4.5 per ticket


Whats the point of doing more tickets if your just going to get less points?


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Post by zajef7 on Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:42 pm

1:9
3:23
5:34
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Post by bllah on Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:57 pm

Wingweaver wrote:So i started it this morning and was surprised when i put in 10 tickets and got 45 points for a complete win, i put in 2 after that and got 16. WTF? why is it worth it to put in 10 tickets and get 4.5 per ticket when i can put in 2 and get 8 per ticket? what are the other ratios?

Tickets : Points
1:9 = 9 per ticket
2:16 = 8 per ticket
3:23 = 7.6 per ticket
4:?
5:34 = 6.8 per ticket
6:?
7:?
7:?
8:?


9:?
10:45 = 4.5 per ticket


Whats the point of doing more tickets if your just going to get less points?

It seems like the more times u win with multiple tickets, the more points u get. I been doing 3 tickets for about 5 rounds and I got something like 160 or 170 points. As of rite now i did 63 rounds and have 1056 points.

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Post by General Osf on Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:00 pm

i haven't tried multiple tickets yet, but it sounds dumb if the ratios are true... only explanation would be if you have an absurd amount of tickets and you don't have the time to use them one by one.

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Post by Wingweaver on Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:03 pm

bllah wrote:

It seems like the more times u win with multiple tickets, the more points u get. I been doing 3 tickets for about 5 rounds and I got something like 160 or 170 points. As of rite now i did 63 rounds and have 1056 points.

you get that much from each win?

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Post by jay on Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:06 pm

The point is that it's faster. If you want to do 1000 tournaments at one point each, it'll take forever. But this gives you a way to trade off your own time for having to spend more EP for the prizes.

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Post by jay on Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:07 pm

Wingweaver wrote:
bllah wrote:

It seems like the more times u win with multiple tickets, the more points u get. I been doing 3 tickets for about 5 rounds and I got something like 160 or 170 points. As of rite now i did 63 rounds and have 1056 points.

you get that much from each win?

A 3-ticket win is worth 23 points.

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Post by Wingweaver on Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:11 pm

jay wrote:
Wingweaver wrote:
bllah wrote:

It seems like the more times u win with multiple tickets, the more points u get. I been doing 3 tickets for about 5 rounds and I got something like 160 or 170 points. As of rite now i did 63 rounds and have 1056 points.

you get that much from each win?

A 3-ticket win is worth 23 points.

5 rounds though would be about 35 per given his rewards...i am jsut curious as to whether you should stick to 1 ticket combo entry over and over again, or do 1 for awhile till you get to a certain point....

time really isnt an issue. id rather get the most point than waste a bunch:

9X10 = 90

10 X 4.5 = 45

twice as many point.

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Post by jay on Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:13 pm

Wingweaver wrote:

time really isnt an issue. id rather get the most point than waste a bunch:

9X10 = 90

10 X 4.5 = 45

twice as many point.

And you get to make that choice. But you could go three times as fast and give up only 4 points per 3 tickets (27 vs. 23 for winning). Might be worth it if you had 400 tickets.

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Post by Selej on Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:09 pm

Yeah I've been doing 1 ticket at a time. I don't see why anyone would do it any other way.

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Post by Troyaof on Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:12 pm

How do people have soooo many tickets. I had like 40. I did do some 10 ticket runs. Is the money payout better with multi ticket use?

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Post by jay on Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:35 pm

Troyaof wrote:How do people have soooo many tickets. I had like 40. I did do some 10 ticket runs. Is the money payout better with multi ticket use?

Er, no it's worse. That's what this whole thread is about Shocked

And people get tickets by using EP to do missions..

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Post by Troyaof on Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:40 pm

I just don't understand the balance in this game. People spend so much for EPs for these events but the pay outs don't seem worth what people give up for the EPs
I thought this thread was more about the points received that than the money.

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Post by jay on Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:44 pm

Troyaof wrote:I just don't understand the balance in this game. People spend so much for EPs for these events but the pay outs don't seem worth what people give up for the EPs
I thought this thread was more about the points received that than the money.

What do you mean by "money payout"? There's no literal money payout of this game. I can't understand your question.

Most people don't buy EPs for cash, as far as I know, though obviously some do. A fair number buy things like 11-packs of Dark Summons. And buying something like Dark Traps for 200 soul points and selling them for 4 ep was certainly a better use of points than buying ep directly Smile

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Post by Troyaof on Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:49 pm

Gold. When I got runner up in the tourney I played I got 50k Gold so I thought maybe the gold payout was better or some reason why you would want to spend the max 10 tickets.

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Post by Wingweaver on Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:57 pm

Troyaof wrote:Gold. When I got runner up in the tourney I played I got 50k Gold so I thought maybe the gold payout was better or some reason why you would want to spend the max 10 tickets.

money(gold) is kinda pointless in this game. Its only used for sacrifices, and only if you have something that needs those sacrifices.

Whats actually useful in this game is EP's, Summons, stuff you can use to trade for what you actually want. not many ppl will take gold for trades.

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Post by Troyaof on Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:09 pm

SO you dont bother with maxing out your characters or most of you have played long enough they are maxed out or? Pretty new to the game so trying to get down what the best plans are.

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Post by denul on Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:10 pm

bllah wrote:
Wingweaver wrote:So i started it this morning and was surprised when i put in 10 tickets and got 45 points for a complete win, i put in 2 after that and got 16. WTF? why is it worth it to put in 10 tickets and get 4.5 per ticket when i can put in 2 and get 8 per ticket? what are the other ratios?

Tickets : Points
1:9 = 9 per ticket
2:16 = 8 per ticket
3:23 = 7.6 per ticket
4:?
5:34 = 6.8 per ticket
6:?
7:?
7:?
8:?


9:?
10:45 = 4.5 per ticket


Whats the point of doing more tickets if your just going to get less points?

It seems like the more times u win with multiple tickets, the more points u get. I been doing 3 tickets for about 5 rounds and I got something like 160 or 170 points. As of rite now i did 63 rounds and have 1056 points.


Multiple rounds with multiple tickets do not give more points. I just did 10 rounds of 3 ticket battles and never got more than 23

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Post by kyan on Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:25 pm

What is so f-king annoying is that Ateam did not make that clear at all. I wasted so many tickets doing 10 at a time. I was tire and didn't notice the point total until afterward. /Sigh.

Just like they didn't make clear what the increase in ticket chance are with progression+ vs djinn/witch/bbv etc...

Does it kill them to add a sentence or two.

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Post by Wingweaver on Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:48 pm

kyan wrote:What is so f-king annoying is that Ateam did not make that clear at all. I wasted so many tickets doing 10 at a time. I was tire and didn't notice the point total until afterward. /Sigh.

Just like they didn't make clear what the increase in ticket chance are with progression+ vs djinn/witch/bbv etc...

Does it kill them to add a sentence or two.

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What they said is true, just misleading, you get more points for more battle tickets, which is true, you just get less per ticket by doing that.

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Post by jay on Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:04 pm

Troyaof wrote:SO you dont bother with maxing out your characters or most of you have played long enough they are maxed out or? Pretty new to the game so trying to get down what the best plans are.

No, everyone maxes things out. But this event is not a great indication of the overall gameplay, for a new player. People generally get gold and use it for upgrades, but gold is not the primary currency, and it can't be directly traded (though you can do it through the auction house). The primary currency is EP.

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Post by Troyaof on Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:10 pm

Ah that makes sense. The Auction house sucks balls. Nothing ever gets offers

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Post by Selej on Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:12 pm

Troyaof wrote:Ah that makes sense. The Auction house sucks balls. Nothing ever gets offers

I get offers all the time. You just gotta make sure you're offering something someone wants and not ask for something ridiculous. Like I saw someone offering a regular Djinn wanting a Minos or 200eps for it. Those people would never get offers.

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Post by Troyaof on Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:14 pm

Selej wrote:
Troyaof wrote:Ah that makes sense. The Auction house sucks balls. Nothing ever gets offers

I get offers all the time. You just gotta make sure you're offering something someone wants and not ask for something ridiculous. Like I saw someone offering a regular Djinn wanting a Minos or 200eps for it. Those people would never get offers.

I offered some AGI one time and got no bids. Said listening to all offers. Same with a few other stats I have tried

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Post by jay on Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:21 pm

The auction house desperately needs a powerful search feature. That's very annoying. This also means that your items can get buried in the middle and nobody sees them. There are tricks around this..

I sell EP for skills and BP there all the time, with regular success.

For something like AGI skills, you're probably better off checking out the in-game board, by which I mean "the wall of whoever the current weekly-top-ranked player is." (under battle rankings).

You should be able to get 1 ep per AGI skill with a little patience.

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