Value of War Songstress, Suera (Auction Help)

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Value of War Songstress, Suera (Auction Help)

Post by matt_jay50 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:59 pm

Hello,

I put up an auction today for Suera and within minutes I had two offers:

-40 Ep

-Grin Cloak Inos+, WWSP, 7ep and 2 BP

My question is whether she's really worth that much or if these people are overpaying (or underpaying possibly)?

Thanks for your help!!

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Re: Value of War Songstress, Suera (Auction Help)

Post by hazeknight on Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:06 pm

I really don't see how it's worth 40 EP, but I've offered around 30-35 EP worth of stuff and people are still turning me down for it.

My advice? The 40 EP. gogogo.

Or perhaps I could entice you with some monsters :p

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Re: Value of War Songstress, Suera (Auction Help)

Post by boards70 on Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:41 am

The offer with Inos+ was actually me. haha I really had no clue if I was underpaying or overpaying. The very few I've seen on the leader boards were going for high prices, but I wasn't sure if they were just overpriced. Haven't had any luck getting one from Dark Summons and I hardly see them anywhere. Did you take the 40ep offer? Last I looked, your auction was still up but I didn't want to retry because the best I could do was up my EP amount from 7 to 12.
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Re: Value of War Songstress, Suera (Auction Help)

Post by matt_jay50 on Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:09 am

Thats so funny lol!

Yeah, the offers I've received are crazy. I'm holding the top two, one of which is the 40 ep. The other is Silver Armor Giant+ lvl 70, Aura Blad Lance + (Covert Down 2) lvl 70, Barrier Artist Iris + (M) 7 lvl 70, Fex the Server + (M) 8 lvl 70, Death Dancer + lvl 70.

I'm actually at a loss as which one to take. I had no idea she was so popular!

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Re: Value of War Songstress, Suera (Auction Help)

Post by boards70 on Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:00 pm

Woah! That's crazy! I have a lot of those monsters, but I'm already using them in my formation. I'm hoping to replace my Death Dancer with Suera depending on what her +m stats are. Her BP is one less than Suera, so I'm thinking Suera is slightly better, plus she has a skill too. I'll just have to hope that it will become a little more common after its been in Dark Summons for awhile. It's so new that I'm afraid to really make some astronomical offer.

Oh, another guy I talked to said he traded his for a Kotone and some EP, so you might get a AA offer like that too. haha
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Re: Value of War Songstress, Suera (Auction Help)

Post by JessicaMD on Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:08 pm

suera is just very popular now since she's brand new and an upgrade for iris for the 'newish' psycho unwinged brute form (see my sig)

I am almost 100% positive that the price will go down to something reasonable in the future... everything is traded and sold at some ludicrous price when it first comes out.

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Re: Value of War Songstress, Suera (Auction Help)

Post by Bestron2 on Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:51 pm

Suera has 10000+ defence. What the -

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Re: Value of War Songstress, Suera (Auction Help)

Post by applesauce on Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:52 pm

summonable = will see price drop

if your not using it, sell it quickly before supplies build up

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Re: Value of War Songstress, Suera (Auction Help)

Post by BigBad on Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:19 pm

She is not worth 40 ep because she is summonable. If she had wings she would pull that easy, but as it is she is just making psycho brutes into a strong high bp team, but that is never going to be a better option than psycho demons as long as WWE is your only agi @ 12bp.

Sin still has to put up with Pit because Marbas doesnt have great accompaniment unless you are willing to spend a fortune. Tyranny has death call. WWE is awesome, but the brute team she allows for isnt anything special without wings.

Take the 40 and put it towards a WWOH. The classic team (WWOH, WWSP, Valk, Silvery & WWE) is still the best.

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Re: Value of War Songstress, Suera (Auction Help)

Post by applesauce on Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:57 pm

btw i saw people selling (note NOT buying at, but selling at) 16ep now lol

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Re: Value of War Songstress, Suera (Auction Help)

Post by BigBad on Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:14 pm

Yeah, that sounds about right.

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Re: Value of War Songstress, Suera (Auction Help)

Post by KrystaK on Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:57 am

BigBad wrote:She is not worth 40 ep because she is summonable. If she had wings she would pull that easy, but as it is she is just making psycho brutes into a strong high bp team, but that is never going to be a better option than psycho demons as long as WWE is your only agi @ 12bp.

Sin still has to put up with Pit because Marbas doesnt have great accompaniment unless you are willing to spend a fortune. Tyranny has death call. WWE is awesome, but the brute team she allows for isnt anything special without wings.

Take the 40 and put it towards a WWOH. The classic team (WWOH, WWSP, Valk, Silvery & WWE) is still the best.

Sorry I do not know what you are thinking here but there is no way unless you are looking for a low bp farming option that the team you listed is better then a Beheaded, Weaver, Song, WWE and Sky pirate. Song is an amazing tank for an A and they, the wingless Brutes in are better in everything but bp cost.

The winged bonus is only 15% more damage. In the classic winged form the wwsp is the top damage dealer at 6k. that makes her what 6900k? That with the winged bonus is still less then the top 2 in the wingless form. Silvery hits barely harder then WWE and compare her to song who will have about 1.75x the attack and over 2x more survivability. You are comparing a 14 bp monster to a 35 bp monster.....

The wingless brutes are still a good DED monster behind the sin demons but they are not a gimp team and are the best all around option for psycho players. Psycho demons are pretty offensive, have a huge number agi monster but lack any defensive skills such as dea or ipd.

Just a quick thing about the winged bonus its 15% to a single stat , That is worth to a 20 bp monster about 2 added bp value. I doubt even if they attack or have an agi advantage a winged brute team can even come close to beating a sin demon team with their new toys. heck I don't think even the winged brutes could beat the wingless counterparts anymore. Between dea and the huge BP advantage it is not worth it.

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Re: Value of War Songstress, Suera (Auction Help)

Post by BigBad on Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:56 pm

Youre missing the comparison here. If we were talking about sin where there is not a good high bp agi option (marbas has poor accompaniment unless you are willing to invest the cost of AA's into an A rank team) then sure, Get the BP as high as possible. But we are talking about Tyranny where Death Call has a great form behind him. The question is not winged brutes vs. high BP brutes, its winged brutes vs. high bp demons.

That being said the high BP brute team you described is way cheaper than psycho demons and the skills do line up better. There are some definite advantages there. However, anyone who has 40 ep to spend on a Suera should probably be investing it elsewhere and waiting on her price to go down. Either way congrats to the guy who started this thread for getting an awesome price.

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Re: Value of War Songstress, Suera (Auction Help)

Post by Buzzy on Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:03 pm

I just got a Suera as well. GUess i'll throw it up on Auction and give it a whirl.

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Re: Value of War Songstress, Suera (Auction Help)

Post by applesauce on Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:22 am

I bought 3 at 15Ep each, just takes a little searching, but I did sell one at 27 lol

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Re: Value of War Songstress, Suera (Auction Help)

Post by Buzzy on Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:25 pm

YEah, I ended up selling mine for 24...pretty happy with that. Didn't take too much effort either.

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Re: Value of War Songstress, Suera (Auction Help)

Post by applesauce on Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:27 am

Well with a lot of ppl asking 30, 24 is a quick sell. I have since plus maxed and skilled to 20 one of mine, it's actually very useful with 10k def lol

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Re: Value of War Songstress, Suera (Auction Help)

Post by matt_jay50 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:56 am

Yeah. The offers I got when it first came out were OBSCENE. I ended up selling it for 40ep and a +Inos when she was the prog....crazy.

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