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Post by XJF Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:00 pm

I'm finally at the point where I can make a profit from farming crystals.
Is there a setting I can turn off that will stop the annoying notification every time I complete a loot set?

I have 1000's of the first 5 loot items but am putting off the last one due to delay between items and the fact that I will actually have to pay attention to dismiss the notification.

Any ideas, ye wiser Summoners?
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Post by Event Horizon Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:44 pm

Yeah there is.. its called the 'Stop Crystal Farming Setting.' ^^
I think they don't give an option to disable the notification on purpose. To keep some people from farming and waste the time of everyone that does.
But.. maybe its just that they don't think to add an option. G Team doesn't really seem to think about anything.
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Post by Shinzengumi Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:05 pm

None.
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Post by Demoni Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:08 am

It's part of farming.

You get pretty good at seeing the notifications of a set completion out of the corner of your eye wail doing other things like watching TV.

Just make sure you are paying attention when you get low on ep. If you run out and click a bit to the left you can accidentally use an ep or myep.


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Post by Ologolos Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:44 pm

Demoni wrote:Just make sure you are paying attention when you get low on ep. If you run out and click a bit to the left you can accidentally use an ep or myep.

hehe i just did that the other day...
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Post by overseer07 Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:23 am

*twenty minutes later* Man, I haven't run out of ep in a while! Sad

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Post by Demoni Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:28 pm

When it comes time to cash in on your crystal farming in the loot screen, you can actually get 2 clicks per screen refresh.

If you time the second one just after the screen starts to fade you will see it clicks the button again. When the screen refreshes you will have 2 crystals not the normal 1 for your efforts.


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Post by Deathblob Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:26 am

It still takes 2 sets of items from your stash, when you get the double-click. Check your totals.

I can't bring myself to just sell a bunch of crystals for 1EP, even though I could then feed that EP back into a little bit bigger batch of crystals like some sort of swamp-powered breeder reactor.

I've got to get the reward at the end, where I get a IPA B (yay) and an Agil B+ (ooooooh) and then both stacks just Power Up. A-Team, you are such a tease!

I think it would take an hour to make 2EP just selling the crystals, my phone is just not that fast. I'd be better off just working a bit of OT and giving my extra cash to A-Team. Yeah, A-Team, you've got me all figured out.
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Post by Demoni Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:35 am

Yea not saying that you get free crystals but it just takes 1/2 as much time to claim the ones you earned.

I have had mixed results with crystal farming for sale and for doing the raid bosses.

When I started playing (2 months ago) you could pretty much expect to get 10:1 for your crystals. That was totally worth it and I made a good bit of ep. Now with people wanting 18:1-20:1 it's really not worth the time or ep IMO.

However I do almost always have an 50 crystal auction running on one of my accounts. Most of the time the offers are junk but sometimes you get solid offers. Last week I sold 50 for an DDD+ and another 50 for 6 ep.

As for doing raid bosses for skill farming, it's a bit hit or miss. I normally get around 60% summons, 30% cash and 10% raid boss monsters. Out of those B rank summons I expect around 30-40% of them to by skilled. It seems to vary a great deal how good those skills are though. Slum and Ven seem the most common with Crit and pre not far behind (thankfully you can actually get ep for those stacks). The good stuff dose not drop that often unfortunately.


I really need to sit down and actually chart a large volume of date to actually have some solid results.... Think that might be one of the things I do with my day off tomorrow Very Happy

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Post by Ologolos Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:37 pm

Has anyone tried to farm raid boss crystals for bosses other than the first 2 or 3? I know the EP cost is higher for each mission and boss, but you'd be guaranteed to get some DECENT skills if you plus the boss cards, like Sky Navy Slayer... in addition to any rank B's you got from the boss defeat.

At first glance it seems better if you would just farm random skills on the first 2 raid bosses, but I just want to see if anyone has tried this other approach and, if so, how it worked out.

If nobody's really tried it, maybe I will, just to say i did.
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Post by Demoni Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:19 pm

Updated with more Data.......

So I have been tracking my data for the past few days and wanted to share my results.

So far I have done 851 2nd (lotus) Raids and the rewards break down like this:

B Rank Summon.....501...............59%
Gold.....................274...............32%
Raid Boss..............76.................9%


In addition I have been charting what I have received (and there skill) for all the above B rank summons.

Agi........19.....4%
Crit........20.....4%
DEA.......29.....6%
DED.......27.....5%
IPA........33.....6%
IPD........22.....4%
Pre........17.....3%
Slum......22.....4%
Ven.......16......3%

Seems with an sample size of 510 I have had an 40% success rate in getting an B rank monster with a skill.


If you care here is a list of all the monsters summoned:
Spoiler:


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Post by CaseyJones Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:00 am

very nice data there bro, props on the good work
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Post by Demoni Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:49 pm

CaseyJones wrote:very nice data there bro, props on the good work

Thanks for the kind words.

Just updated my origional post with more data.
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Post by Armitaage Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:59 pm

looks good, but let us know when you reach 1000 b summons, lol. when performing statistics tests, minimum sample size accepted by scholars is 1000, lol, unless we're dealing with national polls or something, where it needs to be larger.
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Post by Beatdowncity Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:14 pm

And then when you finally get the amount you need for a good sample size...surprise they will yet again change the probability tables :-P
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Post by Armitaage Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:34 pm

if we all decide to work on this as a team of say 10 people and combine our results, we can do 1000 b summons before a team changes the probability tables, lol. it's not like the tables change every day, with 10 of us doing it over the course of 2-3 days, we'll be able to get it before a team changes anything.
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Post by Deathblob Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:54 am

Demoni wrote:
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When I started playing (2 months ago) you could pretty much expect to get 10:1 for your crystals. That was totally worth it and I made a good bit of ep. Now with people wanting 18:1-20:1 it's really not worth the time or ep IMO.

However I do almost always have an 50 crystal auction running on one of my accounts. Most of the time the offers are junk but sometimes you get solid offers. Last week I sold 50 for an DDD+ and another 50 for 6 ep.
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Thanks! This was a really nice idea! With the 1/2 price summons, I was using energy just churning out chaff from the swamp to sac against the gold from battles, and I ended up with a big pile of crystals and no energy to raid.

I did a 77 crystal auction and got:
Furnace reg
Ghoul reg
WWO reg
Evilmoth+M(1)
Armored Tiger

There's maybe 5E in there, and I wanted some of those cards anyway. And it was a nice fun refreshing change from my usual auctions where I get 2 or 3 bids over 3 days. I was getting a bid about every 30 minutes.

Cheers!
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