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Post by Ologolos on Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:44 pm

So I was looking at the DS Wiki Page, under Combos, and noticed it lists a "BP Combo". It indicates (though I've never tested it) that combos where all monsters have the same BP get a 5% increase in both attack and defense. It also indicates a combo in which all monsters have the same skill (though this, I imagine, is most likely a disadvantageous battle formation)

Nonetheless, does anyone know of a 6x combo? For example, Winged, species, rarity, level, guild and bp? If so, which monsters can form that combo?

How about a 7x combo?

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Re: 6x combo

Post by kheimon on Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:01 pm

I have yet to see a viable formation with the bp combo. If they released a new 25 bp wyrm it would be possible to make a team with Sea of Clouds, Plague, MLD and Hell Ice. That would give a 4x combos with pretty good stats and an awesome skill sel of DEA, DED, agi, IPD and hopefully IPA as 5th one.

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Re: 6x combo

Post by Ologolos on Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:04 pm

I think the following would result in a 5x combo with BP in place of the Winged combo:

Two-Faced Devil +
Kali of Massacre+
Devil Ripper +
Draining Butcher +
Chop Demon +

These were listed in the bestiary as A+ Sin 17 bp demons.
Unfortunately not all have skills, but... i guess skills could be added / changed to make a 6x combo team, correct?

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Re: 6x combo

Post by bacsiha on Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:53 am

How about a Skill Combo using Preemtive Strike ?
You party always attack first Very Happy

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Re: 6x combo

Post by Armitaage on Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:07 am

bacsiha wrote:How about a Skill Combo using Preemtive Strike ?
You party always attack first Very Happy

only on the first turn. after that, you attack second. actually, the best we can do(though not quite yet) is lvl, rarity, species, guild, bp, legendary combos, but we need to wait for a team to release some more 16 bp dark lords for each guild, then we'll be golden.

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Re: 6x combo

Post by Ologolos on Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:16 am

bacsiha wrote:How about a Skill Combo using Preemtive Strike ?
You party always attack first Very Happy

I like it! but... is there a "preemptive strike" skill spirit?

Maybe slumbering breath would be better...? Can't multiple monsters use this skill in one battle? I'm sure there's a sleep skill change but I don't know about the former.

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Re: 6x combo

Post by Armitaage on Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:39 am

Ologolos wrote:
bacsiha wrote:How about a Skill Combo using Preemtive Strike ?
You party always attack first Very Happy

I like it! but... is there a "preemptive strike" skill spirit?

Maybe slumbering breath would be better...? Can't multiple monsters use this skill in one battle? I'm sure there's a sleep skill change but I don't know about the former.

nope, no preemptive strike spirit. 5x slumbering breath is pretty useless, all 5 monsters will just sleep the same monster and you will waste a turn not making any attacks. there's a reason why no one wants slumbering breath, and this is it.

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Re: 6x combo

Post by Ologolos on Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:47 am

another potential combo I can find (but still requires waiting for new monsters) is:

Raging Vritra +
Dragon of Mercury +
Snowstorm Dragon+
Dragon of Saturn +
Dragon of Uranus +

these are all 22 BP winged wyrms. 2 psycho and 2 covert, 1 sin.
(I've been ordering my list by BP first)

Another suggestion for A-Team! Smile

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Re: 6x combo

Post by Ologolos on Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:50 am

I'm also only looking at a-rank monsters... but I wonder if there's a b-rank x6 combo... maybe I'll take a quick look a little later.

I just want to see if I can get the combo, more than having an effective fighting team. Might be a waste of skills, but it would look cool on the battle screen when someone sees SIX combos! LOL

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Re: 6x combo

Post by qpwoalsk on Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:55 am

And also if the BP combo remains at 5% bonus then it really doesn't
justify removing it for other combos unless really complete skills.


I have yet to see a viable formation with the bp combo. If they released a new 25 bp wyrm it would be possible to make a team with Sea of Clouds, Plague, MLD and Hell Ice. That would give a 4x combos with pretty good stats and an awesome skill sel of DEA, DED, agi, IPD and hopefully IPA as 5th one.


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Re: 6x combo

Post by Ologolos on Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:39 pm

So i have at least one of the 5x combos using BP combo
Two-Faced Devil +
Kali of Massacre+
Devil Ripper +
Draining Butcher +
Chop Demon +

all i have to do is level them to 70!

I'm working on the wyrm combo, but all i need for that one is another snowstorm dragon to plus the one i have!!! sweet!!

I also thought about a GOOD skill to change them to... All I need is to get 5 blood red spirits, or 5 thunder spirits, and I'll be good to go! (I'm pretty sure those ones can be stacked). Surprised)

Anyone care to donate to this cause? just gift me 5000 ep and I'll buy them at auction lol




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Re: 6x combo

Post by Medeyer on Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:25 am

It's too bad Butcher isn't winged (even though it is in the pic). But seeing as 17 is the magic number that all event monsters use, we might get another 17 BP winged demon in the future.

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Re: 6x combo

Post by Ologolos on Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:16 am

I'm crossing my fingers for that!

I did get my second snowstorm dragon and I'm till leveling up all these new monsters, but more than that, I don't think I'll be able to get 5 decent skills at auction on my budget, unless they really infuse the market with new and existing ones.

I'll keep trying though... so far, it's been kind of fun working towards this!

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Re: 6x combo

Post by Ologolos on Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:03 am

Mainly just bumping my post, but...

I did get my 22 BP Wyrm team all up to the same level, so I'm rockin' a 5x combo without a guild increase Smile Attack is something like 49k, but to be honest, I miss my MLD, Magoo.

Well, I miss his skill ;o)

Anyone know the stats for a different maxed 5x wrym team? Skills aside, I'm wondering how the bonuses compare. I don't have the rest of my wyrms at the max level yet, or I'd check myself lol


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Re: 6x combo

Post by Horg on Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:50 pm

Go to the bestiary link in my sig, you can build any wyrm team you want and see its maxed stats both in and out of combat.
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Re: 6x combo

Post by Ologolos on Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:05 pm

Horg wrote:Go to the bestiary link in my sig, you can build any wyrm team you want and see its maxed stats both in and out of combat.

Thanks Horg! Looks like the stats are pretty close, but some of the other combos are a little better because of the skills, I think.

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lol j/k

I still like my BP combos! Gotta getta x6!

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Re: 6x combo

Post by Ologolos on Wed May 29, 2013 5:45 pm

BUMP... with an update!
So I finally got around to checking out some more potential x6 combos with all these new skills.

Good News: There are quite a few!
Bad News: None are extremely desirable, due to the skill combo.
Worse News: I still don't think you can make an x7 Sad

Even so...
I'm posting some of my findings below. To summarize:

1. I couldn't find any natural x6 combos using the same BP. I couldn't find 5 monsters of the same guild. So all of the formations listed below are relying on the winged combo.[/list]

2. There are a few natural full-rarity combos that take advantage of skill and the new species combo... of BOTH A+ and AA+ Rarity! Beyond that, remember that in order to get a x6 combo, you would have to stop levelling your AA/AA+ at 70 (wah wah). [/list]

3. To figure the max stats for a hybrid form like that, i was multiplying the max AA stats by .55 and the max AA+ stats by .31 to approximate the stats of a level 70 AA/AA+, but those are just estimates based on the "formula" thread on this forum. If anyone has the true formula for how to calculate a monsters stats given their base/max stats plus level, please let me know. (i have the data in a spreadsheet, but I'm just posting a portion of the text here)[/list]

4. None of the x6 combos utilize "stackable" skills like crit rate up or dodge (At least not for A/AA combos... I didn't bother checking B ranks)... so all in all you're probably better off not using them, unless you just want to show off Smile

Lastly, if you think of anything I missed or any have any related ideas, let me know!


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"guild,
skill,
level (70 max),
winged,
3-1-1 species,
4-1 rarity,"
Small 56012 Lord of Oppression+
Small 56049 Armored Roc+
Small 56005 White Winged Oracle+
Small 56047 White Wing Sky Pirate+
Small 76045 Indignant Racio+


"guild,
skill,
level (70 max),
winged,
2-2-1 species,
3-2 rarity,"
Small 53012 Dragonlord of Hellfire+
Small 53109 Mercury Dragon Statue+
Small 73011 Dragon of Disaster+
Small 73045 Crimson Rupture+
Small 73024 Repulsive Reptendo+


"guild,
skill,
level (70 max),
winged,
3-1-1 species,
rarity,"
Small 50120 Magna Cockatrice+
Small 50001 Devil of the Abyss+
Small 50079 Devil Ripper+
Small 50019 Hellfield Devil Asura+
Small 50101 Ray-Beam Parasite+


"guild,
skill,
level (70 max),
winged,
2-1-1-1 species,
rarity,"
Small 53049 Fire Wing Roc+
Small 53001 Sky Dragon+
Small 53018 Fairy Doyen Tita+
Small 53055 Greed Mammon+
Small 53100 Jade Flash, Garb+


"guild,
skill,
level (150 max),
winged,
2-1-1-1 species,
rarity,"
Small 76014 Gold Gorger Dragon+
Small 76028 Twisting Confusion+
Small 76057 Spirit of Abyss+
Small 76038 Kiskil Lyra+
Small 76064 Heaven's Wrath, Soltan+


"guild,
skill,
level (70 max),
winged,
2-1-1-1 species,
3-2 rarity,"
Small 50005 Cruel Black Wings+
Small 50038 Devil of Endless Night+
Small 70014 Banished Dragon+
Small 70057 Wailing Death+
Small 70064 Demise Chains, Sabis+


"guild
skill
level (70 max)
winged
5 species
3-2 rarity"
Small 59004 Purple Rose Fairy+
Small 50038 Devil of Endless Night+
Small 70014 Banished Dragon+
Small 70057 Wailing Death+
Small 70064 Demise Chains, Sabis+


"guild,
skill,
level (150 max),
winged,
3-1-1 species,
rarity,"
Small 79001 Slumbering Quay+
Small 70034 Rioting Krups
Small 70005 Fire Lord, Suzaku+
Small 70013 Dark Evangelion, Luka+
Small 70031 Screaming Rage, Klamut+


"guild,
skill,
level (70 max),
winged,
2-2-1 species,
4-1 rarity,"
Small 50004 Scorn Black Wings+
Small 70034 Rioting Krups
Small 70005 Fire Lord, Suzaku+
Small 70013 Dark Evangelion, Luka+
Small 70031 Screaming Rage, Klamut+


"guild,
skill,
level (70 max),
winged,
2-2-1 species,
3-2 rarity,"
Small 50067 Dragon of Mars+
Small 50064 Magma Dragon+
Small 50134 Blazing Wings, Klema+
Small 70018 Sacrilege Lord, Grizel+
Small 70046 Blood Wings, Primula+


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Re: 6x combo

Post by *Alucard* on Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:11 am

sounds pretty interesting

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Re: 6x combo

Post by MoRandi on Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:35 pm

Those things are really crap combinations, i havent checked and dunno if any for same guild, species, winged can be found with all 5 monsters horned, since there is a horned combo out there, very rare but i know there is, u can check darksummoner.wikia where u see list of all monsters and special combos they can give, if is a posibility to find 5 monsters for exmple sin winged demons AA all horned than u get a 6x combo without mix species or crap monsters, but that was just an example and u can check for all guilds species and rank (A or AA)

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Re: 6x combo

Post by SwtLaotiaNix7 on Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:29 pm

Horned Combo is no longer in the game.

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Re: 6x combo

Post by MoRandi on Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:45 pm

SwtLaotiaNix7 wrote:Horned Combo is no longer in the game.

Strange, i never heard of a removal...

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Re: 6x combo

Post by HelloKitty on Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:11 am

MoRandi wrote:winged can be found with all 5 monsters horned, since there is a horned combo out there, very rare but i know there is,

There is no such thing as a Horned Combo.

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Re: 6x combo

Post by borix on Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:53 am

I think you mean the 'horny' combo. This is what you get with a formation like HeroBaby above my post. clown



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Re: 6x combo

Post by MoRandi on Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:51 am

borix wrote:I think you mean the 'horny' combo. This is what you get with a formation like HeroBaby above my post. clown



Bazinga!
Yea that might be true lol Razz

And for hero baby, u misunderstood, that is visible from what exactly u quoted, winged was just an example like guild and species, i was referred if for a specific guild monsters, specific species and winged combo, can we add a horned combo.
Anyway this combo some of u people mention is not in the game anymore, but to be sincere, i havent seen any announcement from A-team removing it...
Whats true, i havent tried to make such a combo

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Re: 6x combo

Post by Armitaage on Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:57 am

The wiki is not an official one by ATeam, and the information contained therein isn't always accurate. I assure you, there is no horned combo

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