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Post by Fenix00 on Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:48 pm

Is this topic overkill? Am I the only one thinking about this?

What is everyone's feeling about these soul of skills giving birth to CL/Artic/HellsBlaze(20)?

Will having just 1 monster at full skill kill any A team even if they have agility(20)?

Please feel free to discuss and expand the initial topic if necessary.

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Re: AA teams w/max rare skill

Post by silentsong on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:32 am

The souls don't increase the skill levels on HB/AT/CL, so this topic is moot.

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Re: AA teams w/max rare skill

Post by Bender214 on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:42 am

Um. Yeah they do. Tell that to the moon+ Artic(20) in auction house :p

And, Artic(20) hits all mobs in formation. Apparently the skill description changes at (20) too. Because godlike. So...

That said, my Health+, IPD, DEA combo wipes the floor with *any* A+ team, so obviously that isnt the big concern.

What most fear is these skills killing any AA+ team. Which is a very real possibility. For instance, the moon was tested out on Angelinas form and it wiped the floor with her. So, now what?

Ive never been worried about being the best, and there are not going to be a high number to these epic mobs out there, but I am sure Ateam will create something that will put these monsters to shame in the future, trying to milk us for more money, as usual. Just to stay on top.

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Post by Bender214 on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:44 am

Oh, and fyi. The souls did not work on those skills the day they were released, then Ateam fixed within a couple hours. Thus the confusion. They do work now tho.

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Post by silentsong on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:57 am

Bender214 wrote:Oh, and fyi. The souls did not work on those skills the day they were released, then Ateam fixed within a couple hours. Thus the confusion. They do work now tho.

Oh okay cool. I didn't know they fixed it.



But, about the CL(20) moon sea, he posted that before the event was up, so soul of skills were not used.

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Re: AA teams w/max rare skill

Post by mewantcookies on Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:47 am

It was arctic tempest (20) not CL (20). The thing is u can buy CL but arctic tempest only comes from victoria right? So how many victorias would he need to buy to raise it to 20? I think it's with the souls.
Back on topic, yeah, talk about overkill. No A formation will stand a chance against that. Not sure most AA's will either.

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Post by Armitaage on Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:58 am

well arctic tempest also comes from pure white spirit, but only one was ever released, lol. so yeah, no wonder vic's price is sky high if she's being used like this(assuming this was not done with souls)

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Re: AA teams w/max rare skill

Post by Bender214 on Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:56 am

there wasnt enough vics in game to accomplish that without souls Smile iirc there were only 100 vic regs given, most are + now, plus a few more that got out during the flashback summons. would need 3 to get to (4), and then minimum of 80 to get to (20). 5 per (4) stack if no failures. 1 would evolve, and 3 more to get to (4).

No one spent 16,600 ep to make that Moon :p

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Re: AA teams w/max rare skill

Post by ryesteve on Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:55 am

Given that we just had a slew of people banned for dupe cheating, why does anyone insist that seeing something in the auctions is proof of the skill souls' capabilities??

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Post by faithnomorex on Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:03 pm

ryesteve wrote:Given that we just had a slew of people banned for dupe cheating, why does anyone insist that seeing something in the auctions is proof of the skill souls' capabilities??

My thoughts exactly. I've now seen two different Moon Seas, one with CL(20) AND one with AT(20) within the top 5 pages of auction since these soul of skills have come out. That still is not the proof I would need to see to believe that the SoS works on CL, AT, and HB.

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Re: AA teams w/max rare skill

Post by Bender214 on Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:07 pm

smh. How about people using them, and saying it works? The doubling in price of thunder spirit, the ppl buying soul of skills for 35/70 min., when stacks for even the rarer skills are less than 1/2 that.

I haven't personally tested it, but all indications and sources say yes, the souls work on those skills.

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Post by ryesteve on Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:49 pm

Bender214 wrote:I haven't personally tested it, but all indications and sources say yes
Yeah, except for the guy who posted here to say he DID personally test it, and the game TOLD him it would not work on that skill. If that is a bug, it is amazing that a software bug became sentient and explicitly alerted people as to its presence.

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Post by Bender214 on Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:19 pm

lol, believe what you want. H88ROK has a Mark of Death, Gess+ with celestial (20) in auction right now. He must be an active duper!! Because that is impossible! or not...

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Post by DevilJin6Six6 on Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:58 pm

Bender214 wrote:lol, believe what you want. H88ROK has a Mark of Death, Gess+ with celestial (20) in auction right now. He must be an active duper!! Because that is impossible! or not...

He continues to argue... There was an error message when they first came out, and it did fail. Now it works, has been confirmed by multiple people. /story

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Post by ryesteve on Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:50 pm

Yeah, except no one HERE has said they did it and it worked. It's always, "some guy on my wall" or "I saw an auction..."

Look, I hope it does work... because then in 3 months I'll be able to sell mine for 200 ep each... but in the meantime, the standard you people use as "proof", is completely laughable. Doesn't mean you're wrong... just means that maybe you're all a bunch of broken clocks.

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Post by DevilJin6Six6 on Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:52 pm

ryesteve wrote:Yeah, except no one HERE has said they did it and it worked. It's always, "some guy on my wall" or "I saw an auction..."

Look, I hope it does work... because then in 3 months I'll be able to sell mine for 200 ep each... but in the meantime, the standard you people use as "proof", is completely laughable. Doesn't mean you're wrong... just means that maybe you're all a bunch of broken clocks.

Open you mouth, and insert your foot. Even your "friend" confirmed it worked.

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Post by ryesteve on Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:57 pm

Yes, I just saw his updates... and this "catch" he speaks of is what sounds like a bug. Why would A Team let it work EXCEPT for going from skill 1 to 2? It sounds like they didn't intend for it to work, but didn't put in any logic to trap the situation where the skill was already past 1, since this would only happen under "odd" circumstances.

Interesting though... I said it didn't work, you said it did... and it turns out that it doesn't work for skill 1, which covers at least 95% of the people out there... and yet, you consider yourself vindicated? Pretty awesome!

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Post by DevilJin6Six6 on Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:11 pm

Please make a post after mine so you can have the last word, and then we should only continue this conversation via PM's. Nobody wants to read our BS arguing. I apologize to everyone subscribed to this thread, i should have just let it go... but it was just so tempting!

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Re: AA teams w/max rare skill

Post by ryesteve on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:03 pm

Don't apologize. It's instructive.

Anyone reading this who has a cl 1 and is wondering whether or not to spend huge EP for a package of skill souls will be grateful for the information.

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Re: AA teams w/max rare skill

Post by kyan on Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:27 pm

Bender214 wrote:Um. Yeah they do. Tell that to the moon+ Artic(20) in auction house :p

And, Artic(20) hits all mobs in formation. Apparently the skill description changes at (20) too. Because godlike. So...

That said, my Health+, IPD, DEA combo wipes the floor with *any* A+ team, so obviously that isnt the big concern.

What most fear is these skills killing any AA+ team. Which is a very real possibility. For instance, the moon was tested out on Angelinas form and it wiped the floor with her. So, now what?

Ive never been worried about being the best, and there are not going to be a high number to these epic mobs out there, but I am sure Ateam will create something that will put these monsters to shame in the future, trying to milk us for more money, as usual. Just to stay on top.

Arctic is a single attack skill. Are you saying that at 20 it becomes aoe? Didn't happen with hell blaze 20 from my discussion with another player who said he had hb20. It seems that people are still confuse over arctic and hb. It was incorrectly reported to be aoe when it first came out and I still see that being posted on AH/forum all the time.

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Post by Bender214 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:01 am

I've had several Vics and mads, so I'm not confused about the skill. The owner of the moon with Artic 20 stated that it became area at 20. No reason to doubt, but seems weird they would make the skill mechanics change like that.

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Post by kheimon on Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:55 pm

Ateam's post on their FB page: "Also with the Soul of Skills giving many players a Monster with a high-level Skill, a rebalancing of Skill powers is being looked into. Let us know what you think about that below."

Seems like they're looking into nerfing the rare skills...

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Post by kyan on Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:25 pm

kheimon wrote:Ateam's post on their FB page: "Also with the Soul of Skills giving many players a Monster with a high-level Skill, a rebalancing of Skill powers is being looked into. Let us know what you think about that below."

Seems like they're looking into nerfing the rare skills...

Really now they are thinking about skill balance. What did they think was going to happen when they throw out those spirits. Everyone saw that coming a mile away as soon as they were added to the database. Goes to show, once again, that devs have no clue what's really going on in their game.

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Post by faithnomorex on Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:45 pm

With the exception of being conservative in their release of agility monsters, Ateam has very rarely shown concerns for balance when releasing monsters.

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