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Post by Vallette on Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:20 am

Just curious if anyone knows what happened?

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Post by bacsiha on Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:05 am

I dont know what they mean "exploit item" is
can anyone give me some example about that ?

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Post by hellgirl on Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:43 am

What about those cheater using multi account ? Those people are like garbage for the game and pollute!

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Post by episparh on Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:56 am

hellgirl wrote:What about those cheater using multi account ? Those people are like garbage for the game and pollute!

You probably meant the accounts that are made to abuse ally invite campaigns. Why having more then one account is necessary bad if they are played but not left inactive ?

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Post by bacsiha on Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:12 am

i have 2 acc
1 is on my IP and 1 is on my mother's
i usually gift item from one to the other, does it mean it's a "exploit" ?

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Post by DS_Melora88 on Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:30 am

I don't think that it had to do with multiple accounts. I don't know what happened for sure, but I would wager a guess that it involved item or monster duping or finding a way to get free soul points.

There were posts on here a while back that showed someone with event ranking reward monsters before the event was even over, and there was the guy with a team of 5 celestial lightning skill 20.

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Post by episparh on Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:32 am

The 5 AAs with 20 celestial was reported by me

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Post by dr4ko on Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:04 am

LOT OF ANNA/FATE/BK ARE DUPED ROFL. BEWARE, MAYBE A-TEAM DELETES ALL DUPED ITEMS/SUMMONS

and ... 5 AA with cele20 is amazing lol

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Post by sumdark on Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:19 am

On Android you only reinstall the App to be able to create a new account.
Now if u had an high account, u noted down the id and stuff so you are able to reactivate when done using exploit.

So now u r able to create endless Accounts u can enter a guild for stalactite summons, use them, gift yourself, and redo this steps....

If you have for example one of the stalactite summon on your wl there is a gift (mainacc) button if your multiacc twink owns the same monster, so theres no need to be lvl20.

Easy like that.
And i bet there were no banning 2 people, cause there is more people using this i GUESS and if they found those people by theirself they dont have to ask for help with reporting those guys.

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Post by Armitaage on Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:34 am

sumdark wrote:On Android you only reinstall the App to be able to create a new account.
Now if u had an high account, u noted down the id and stuff so you are able to reactivate when done using exploit.

So now u r able to create endless Accounts u can enter a guild for stalactite summons, use them, gift yourself, and redo this steps....

If you have for example one of the stalactite summon on your wl there is a gift (mainacc) button if your multiacc twink owns the same monster, so theres no need to be lvl20.

Easy like that.
And i bet there were no banning 2 people, cause there is more people using this i GUESS and if they found those people by theirself they dont have to ask for help with reporting those guys.

Just my 2 cents

actually, this cannot be abused in this way, as after you transfer accounts, you cannot do it again for a whole week. trust me, i tried out the reset system, it has limitations on it's use to prevent this kind of "exploit".

not to mention that as of 1am game time today, until after the event ends you cannot leave your clan, nor can the general expel you.

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Post by hellgirl on Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:40 am

I was talking about geeks using two phones to make two accounts. Multi accounts is forbidden, cheater has to be find and théorie account ban. Its easy evolving in the game with many accounts, there is no interest.. no challenge.

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Post by Armitaage on Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:47 am

hellgirl wrote:I was talking about geeks using two phones to make two accounts. Multi accounts is forbidden, cheater has to be find and théorie account ban. Its easy evolving in the game with many accounts, there is no interest.. no challenge.

i honestly don't think that g team cares about multiple accounts so long as they are not both on the same device. so long as g team gets their money, that's the end of it. now if they allowed players to have more than one characters on the same account, perhaps people would be less driven to using emulators to create a plethora of alt accounts. way i see it working is having a limited capacity account storage that's shared between all characters on the account as well as the individual storages. apart from that storage, there being code that simply prevents one character from even seeing another character on the same account, let alone interacting with it, although, not stopping them from belonging to the same clan, lol.

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Post by sumdark on Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:47 am

There maybe limitations but u only have to do the recovery once u r done using exploit. Only once is the keyword.

And with jailbreak you can do this not only on android but on ios (iphone) also, by resetting the phone and changing unique id

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Post by Armitaage on Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:52 am

honestly, i think the exploits that they are talking about deal with directly hacking the game not doing things aimed at increasing the advantage you get. oh, and i have heard(but not confirmed) that you can only do 10 account creations on a given device before the game ip bans you. if that is true, there are so many limitations, that it is not even an exploit.

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Post by sumdark on Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:55 am

@armitaage

I hope You are right bud, but pls read what i wrote in the post before.

About the jailbreak part

Did you read the ingame message.
If u hack the game there is no need to use gift-function.

But they are talking right about an exploit and the gift function.
Not about any hacks.

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Post by Pandemonium on Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:06 am

There was one guy posting pics of himself gifting 10,000EP to someone and hundreds of thousands of dark summons. Perhaps this is what was found?

I know that he had flagged it with A-Team months ago...

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Post by Armitaage on Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:21 am

sumdark wrote:@armitaage

I hope You are right bud, but pls read what i wrote in the post before.

About the jailbreak part

Did you read the ingame message.
If u hack the game there is no need to use gift-function.

But they are talking right about an exploit and the gift function.
Not about any hacks.

1. i read the part about the jailbreak part but i will not get into a discussion of jailbreak/rooting. i have some very strong opinions about those topics and no one can convince me otherwise, even if they have rock solid proof. suffice it to say, with things made by humans, another human can always find a way to abuse those systems. it's a fact of life.

2. yeah i read the ingame message, it warns players that receive a gift from someone else that looks suspicious. for the devs/admins of the game, receiving the product of an exploit, knowingly or unknowingly, makes you an exploit user too, so they ban you too, even though you didn't really do anything wrong. that doesn't mean that the exploit itself didn't involve hacking. it's this way because the game devs recognize that many players use multiple devices to create multiple accounts. so even when only one account actually used an exploit that involves hacking, they'll just gift the result to their other account. knowing this, and knowing how hard it is to prove that an account belongs to any particular player, the devs simply define an exploiter anyone who directly profits in any way from the results of the exploit.

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Post by sumdark on Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:33 am

I am still thinking :
it has something to do with this event.
It has something to do with creating new accounts and using the wishlist-gift-function.
And even if u cannot leave a clan:

U can create a clan and farm the first individual reward summons which is easy to obtain.

They spoke about kicking BOTH players, so all what i explained is even easyr with 2 phones, with one guy keeping the clan for example, ect pp...

All is easy for people with android or jailbreaked iphones.



Pls note that i am not thinking i am totally right with what i think,
it might be totally false what i am saying.
We never know, only Ateam the banned player and god knows what happened.
What i ve sayed is just an idea.
I am totally against bugusers exploiters ect.
Multiacc. For events is used in every mmorpg. Its nothing new.

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Post by episparh on Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:00 am

Hm , how you all decided that the exploit is related to gift function.
The message just warns that there are ppl who use exploit and they clearly tells that if a exploit item is found in anyone the user will be deleted.
Just beware of random expensive gifts or bargains.

About android devices and hacked iPhones ... dude , if i want to create million accounts I can do it , no need to touch accounts on my phone or tablet
The so called IP limitation is a lie too and even if it existed i doubt it would be any problem to common gamer.

About multi accounting - how 2-3 accounts gives an advantage? You still need time to play and click. And what can stop people to install the game on their 2nd device (how you determine if I play on my 2nd device or my brother).

The problem is with this ally summon campaigns ... if you multi account just for free summons(which is kinda lame) you leave a lot of accounts under level 20 which are server junk ofc. I think that a-team should implement at least hibernating of accounts that are not played for more then 1 month. Such accounts should be moved in secondary database and left there until activated again.

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Post by JaredAvery1 on Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:20 pm

How I wish A-Team do something about the Exploit thing, not only banning the exploiter. He/she can just create a new account and do the exploit again. worst case if that person reveals how the exploit works.

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Post by JessicaMD on Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:22 pm

episparh wrote:The problem is with this ally summon campaigns ... if you multi account just for free summons(which is kinda lame) you leave a lot of accounts under level 20 which are server junk ofc. I think that a-team should implement at least hibernating of accounts that are not played for more then 1 month. Such accounts should be moved in secondary database and left there until activated again.


noooooo... I think the problem with this ally summon campaign is that the ally summons SUCK Razz

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and what does sin get? a slightly bigger blood blob?

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Post by kheimon on Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:41 pm

There's this guy named RAIDen, everybody is saying on his wall that he's been banned (most seemed happy about that). He has a crimson dragonoid+ as leader and three Dezm (+?) in his formation. I think he might be one of those who were banned but I dont really know what he did, can't find a link back to his profile.

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Post by djken312 on Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:31 pm

what i heard is some guy are selling 4ep for $1 to paypay and he claimed he has over 4k ep .. i think he is doing some kind of hack and sell for real money is forbidden .. i think thats what it is .. not 100% sure

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Post by SwtLaotiaNix7 on Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:10 pm

djken312 wrote:what i heard is some guy are selling 4ep for $1 to paypay and he claimed he has over 4k ep .. i think he is doing some kind of hack and sell for real money is forbidden .. i think thats what it is .. not 100% sure

ohhhh saw that yesterday....maybe it was him....he wanted you to email his gmail account...i remember cuz i was jus reading his wall with all the people willing to pay for ep that way

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Post by episparh on Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:37 am

djken312 wrote:what i heard is some guy are selling 4ep for $1 to paypay and he claimed he has over 4k ep .. i think he is doing some kind of hack and sell for real money is forbidden .. i think thats what it is .. not 100% sure

If this is the case then banning is 100% sure. By selling for real cash (regardless if the item is hacked or not) the person directly get's potential profit from A-team.

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