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Post by episparh Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:33 am

Today I tried to fight vs. level 70 player with 160 BP formation.
S/He used only Holy Soldiers ... I've killed 3 of them but then the two that were left wiped out my maxed x5 psycho winged brute formation ... I looked in the battle log and found that the 2 holly soldiers left used Celestial Light (20). I assume that the one that I've killed have same skills too .

Is this even possible or is it a cheat ?

... By my estimation x500 celestial light skills are used for this which is highly unreal
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Post by silentsong Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:37 am

Do you remember the name of who you fought? Of course it's possible but I highly doubt anyone has enough in-game wealth to get so many CL skills.

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Post by episparh Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:41 am

Ofc I have it. It is still in my Log and I made a screenshot of his/her page
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Post by TheFury Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:42 am

upload the image to imgur and post it here.

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Post by episparh Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:47 am

here it is -> imgur.com/GoJoi
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Post by Bender214 Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:51 am

that person was #1 weekly a couple months ago with that team. it is possible, thunder spirits were extremely plentiful around that time, selling for 30 ep or less.. at the same time that person had placed several thousand ep in auction looking for some rare cards.

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Post by episparh Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:54 am

Still making x20 skill on same type AA is more than a foolish decision. Not to mention that changing one of this with AGI x20 would be far better

For me it looks like a clear example for duplicating/cheating
Even at 30 ep per Thunder spirit this is 15000ep = approximately 9,000 bucks (4x24ep=96~60 bucks , 150x60 bucks) ... Seems legit , right?

Anyway, shared my doubts with A-team.


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Post by Horg Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:17 am

Tha'ts pretty epic
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Post by ryesteve Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:06 pm

episparh wrote:For me it looks like a clear example for duplicating/cheating
Agreed.
I've been complaining to A Team ever since "instant 20s" first started appearing in auctions, but they clearly don't care.

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Post by Horg Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:13 pm

I just assume A-Team funnels our e-mails into their spam folder
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Post by ryesteve Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:17 pm

They have two spam folders. One generates the "check the help section" form letter, and the other generates the "we warn players who violate the rules" form letter.

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Post by Crucial Xian Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:49 pm

Woah. Post this pick.
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Post by kristova Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:41 am

this team is the sickest thing i have ever seen!!!! are they all AA+?

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Post by episparh Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:47 am

Well, I didn't noticed if they are + or not but killing 3 of them means they are most likely AA or not fully maxed
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Post by kristova Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:29 am

does anyone know the max attack of a Holy+?

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Post by silentsong Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:34 am

CL scales with attack damage right?

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Post by Bender214 Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:45 am

max Holy AA+ is 14640 atk.

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Post by Dark Impact Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:38 am

yeah it's like 14.6k

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Post by Dark Impact Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:38 am

after evolved

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Post by Troyaof Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:36 pm

THere are hacks out there. Smart IT people will always find a way. Smarter IT people don't share it with many people keeping it from being wide spread and shut down.

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Post by Horg Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:43 pm

It's most likely a DUPE (duplicating cards, finding a place with long load times where the card is in "limbo" and is registered to be in 2 places at once by the server), which is an exploit, a hack for this game would entail actually breaking into the A-Team DB and changing values.
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Post by Troyaof Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:44 pm

Well however they are doing it there are 'several' people out there doing it

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Post by episparh Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:49 pm

Well, slow connections can be simulated with methods like bandwidth limitation or even lag switching.
The auction seems dupe proof but direct trades are not. Simple solution will be to remove cancel to a person who offered 2nd in the trade so this will prevent cancel/accept simultaneously in both sides because of latency exploit. Ofcourse , max duration of direct trades should be reduced or configurable like it is in Auction

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There is one maxed Holy+ in Auction
ATK 14640 , DEF 9760 , HP 13420
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Post by applesauce Tue Oct 30, 2012 8:21 pm

Horg wrote:It's most likely a DUPE (duplicating cards, finding a place with long load times where the card is in "limbo" and is registered to be in 2 places at once by the server), which is an exploit, a hack for this game would entail actually breaking into the A-Team DB and changing values.

im not sure this would work, the game is entirely server based, ur monsters could be in limbo all they want so long as the server has not decide where it should be, it will be where it was originally(ie: never 2 places at once), if two people did the accept/cancel then which ever command reaches first would register. if you could hack into A-teams servers however you could pretty much do whatever you want.
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Post by kyan Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:16 pm

I am not sure how you can simulate it but there are definitely bugs in latency in the game that will create duplicate item. That happened to me twice already. Once on an ally summon, the game lagged and I ended up with 2 confined in my inventory. Second time the game lagged when I picked up a Kanna+ from the gift box and I ended up with 2 Kanna+ in my inventory. Someone who is an IT expert I'm sure can duplicate these situations and create duplicate items.

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