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Re: Formation Guide

Post by JessicaMD on Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:12 pm

Armitaage wrote:lol, the reason i want screenies is that it ensures that there is no doubts about typos or any such things. just try to imagine this scenario:

new monster, we don't know it's stats.
guy a posts: 5000/7000/4000
guy b posts: 6000/6000/4000

both are for the same monster, and i know the integrity of both guys, but clearly one is right and the other is not. i myself don't have the monster, how do i decide which is correct? screenie is definitive.

Haha i understood why, just didnt know how Razz

But i guess it makes sense in hindsight of how people have pictures of stuff in the game (and i dont mean the monster big/small pngs for sigs)

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Re: Formation Guide

Post by Armitaage on Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:52 pm

ba-bump. updated all A+ forms with latest info.

sorry jess, but after reviewing your team for psycho brutes, i'd have to say that i fear winged brutes more than that team. it's stats just aren't very impressive at all. easily the best monster in the team is purple flame weaver, followed by wwsp. yes, we're stuck with wwe for agi, but other than that...wwe, inos, and iris just fall waaaay short in the stats department. might as well stick with winged brutes, despite the lack of certain skills and at least get the winged combo.

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Re: Formation Guide

Post by kheimon on Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:30 pm

WWE is so bad I would almost be tempted to try a non-agi defensive team. Maybe not as good but most certainly cooler. How would this sound?

Aura Blade Lance (Covert down)
Purple Flame Weaver (DEA)
WWSP (IPD)
Wings of Fury, Airam
Death Dancer


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Re: Formation Guide

Post by Armitaage on Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:51 pm

kheimon wrote:WWE is so bad I would almost be tempted to try a non-agi defensive team. Maybe not as good but most certainly cooler. How would this sound?

Aura Blade Lance (Covert down)
Purple Flame Weaver (DEA)
WWSP (IPD)
Wings of Fury, Airam
Death Dancer


honestly, i would use wwoh+ instead of aura blade lance. slightly lower stats, but impulse down ensures some halfway decent survivability against the most numerous type of teams out there.

here's stats on the two defensive teams under discussion:

Wings of Fury, Airam
Purple Flame Weaver (DEA)
WWSP (IPD)
WWOH (IMP DOWN)
Death Dancer

Attack Defense Health BP
58928 60012 40942 143

Aura Blade Lance (Covert down)
Purple Flame Weaver (DEA)
WWSP (IPD)
Wings of Fury, Airam
Death Dancer

Attack Defense Health BP
62351 63488 40897 153

nearly identical, but the former will have a better time against impulse teams, which are far more numerous than covert teams.

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Re: Formation Guide

Post by kheimon on Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:34 am

If you go impulse down, I'd take beheaded lunatic over wwoh. Better stats and costs around 1/100th of the price
You could also use both him and Lance and take out death dancer.

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Re: Formation Guide

Post by Slinger1 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:33 pm

here's my skill set up for covert demon 4:1 formation (the reason why I named it 4:1 is due to my decision to sacf covert guild combo for demon with agi)
Bestia+ (DEA)
Greed+ (garb if I am rich lol) (IPA)
Tide demon+(IPD)
Unholy+ (crit up) ( i would replace unholy with donner (C.Lightning), if I am rich)
DCC+ (or pit+ for affordable agi demon)

extra cards for swap:
Arrow+(not sure if is impulse or psycho down)
Naga general+(pre strike)
Agares+( dodge rate increase)

what do you guys think ?


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Re: Formation Guide

Post by HelloKitty on Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:54 pm

I think we need to take a look at Psycho Brutes once again! New War Songstress Suera is a beast. Once I have her fully leveled up I'll upload a picture. She has IPA and here are her skills (I know it's not a picture and you can't trust it yet) ATK=6984, DEF=10088, HP=6984. She is so amazing. I'm putting her in an all female team. I know the BP is high, but it's worth it to me. War Songstress, Death Dancer, Purple Flame, Lunatic Medic, and unfortunately White Winged Elite, because of her agility. I hate that card though!

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Re: Formation Guide

Post by Kalceus on Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:01 pm

Just informing you there is a significant new rank A covert beast prog (again lol). Silverback warrior, 30BP, DED, seems to be an HP heavy type with equal attck/def, not sure the ending stats, but may be a replacement for BSK. As I use covert beast, please lemme know if you get the max stats on this guy Smile

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Re: Formation Guide

Post by Slinger1 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:46 pm

here's the status of maxed 100 flame demon:
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my first time posting this ss through uploading.
Click the img for the actual ss as well*


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Re: Formation Guide

Post by Armitaage on Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:13 pm

...if only he had a more useful skill, dammit! but there's no denying the defensive power of this demon + kag + cannon+. talk about strong. looks like it's time to invest in some satiate spirits or an ipd spirit, lol. imp down on an A+ is just dumb(when the A+ is impulse itself, lol)

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Re: Formation Guide

Post by fast3 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:27 pm

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Re: Formation Guide

Post by Slinger1 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:31 pm

aura goliath's skill is the same as clarrisa
pict of aura goliath's max status+



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Re: Formation Guide

Post by FireThunder on Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:35 pm

Putting together sin beasts since I acquired a Mad Flame+... doesn't Giant Hell Chameleon make Deep Sea Destruct obsolete?

Same thing for Gragel... he's a better version of Released Fenrisulfr, right?

What's with the recent sin beasts being: A. progs and B. replacements for old event only monsters? ATEAM Y U NO IPA OR DED SIN BEAST???

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Re: Formation Guide

Post by XJF on Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:48 pm

Just need some quick advice and don't really want to make a new thread for a couple questions.

First off, I am COMPLETELY aware that my party is not the optimal Psycho Demon A/+ party. I do it for personal preference.
Secondly, it should be noted that I do not intend to make a transition to AA any time soon, and I'm also not a person who spends a lot of time battling.

First Question: so at some point in the semi-near-ish future I intend to add a HPVictoria+ to my party. Who should I replace with her, assuming only options are BSD and Lewd? Pre-strike isn't half bad [especially with DED and IPA(20)], but BSD has raw power. Not really sure how to approach this one, any advice?

Second: I'm still debating, but I may get a SDD for may party sometime after I get my Vic. However, should I get her with original PS skill or one changed to DEA?

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Re: Formation Guide

Post by Armitaage on Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:20 pm

personally, since vic+ is not quite the highest attack around, i'd place her where lewd is right now. and definitely get sdd with original skill, i dunno what anyone who has her skill changed to dea was smoking. Prestrike is actually useful when it's on sdd, lol.

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Re: Formation Guide

Post by XJF on Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:45 pm

Armitaage wrote:personally, since vic+ is not quite the highest attack around, i'd place her where lewd is right now. and definitely get sdd with original skill, i dunno what anyone who has her skill changed to dea was smoking. Prestrike is actually useful when it's on sdd, lol.
Thanks for the insight. I've heard that 7600ATK pre-strike is no joke, but wasn't sure if the DEA would give me a better advantage with what I choose to work with :-p

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Re: Formation Guide

Post by jbbiggdogg on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:57 pm

For the Covert AA/+ Team you certainly can add Winged Wyrms to that list now.
Vanity Dragon+ (don't know stats as I don't have one YET)
Wingarm Dragon+ Atk 13860 Def 10080 HP 15120 BP 34
Demolition Dragon+ Atk 7920 Def 7920 HP 11440 BP 15
Dragon of Disaster+ Atk 13200 Def 9600 HP 14400 BP 31
Dragon of Terra+ Atk 8100 Def 8100 HP 11700 BP 16

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Re: Formation Guide

Post by severin on Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:20 am

I was wondering what you guys thought about the psycho creation team with all the new creations coming out lately. I'm currently using

Hell's Armored Train
Shocking Colossus
Time Void Golem
Seeker Quadriga
Grand Demon Warrior

All for a total atk of 54.7k, def of 51k, and hp of 42k. You have IPD, DED, IPA, Agi, and critical, which seems like a pretty awesome skill set to me. I'm still a bit new to DS, so I might be completely wrong, but I think the psycho creations have a lot more versatility now and a lot more potential over all.

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Re: Formation Guide

Post by Xcalibre on Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:09 pm

Is there a psycho creation with DEA?
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Re: Formation Guide

Post by XJF on Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:54 pm

Xcalibre wrote:Is there a psycho creation with DEA?
The 16bp Scaled Chimera does, as well as the 30bp Shocking Collosus from The Decisive Path

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Re: Formation Guide

Post by zzz1998 on Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:26 pm

XJF wrote:
Xcalibre wrote:Is there a psycho creation with DEA?
The 16bp Scaled Chimera does, as well as the 30bp Shocking Collosus from The Decisive Path

Shocking Colossus is DED not DEA. Black Steel Viper (AA) also has DEA.

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Re: Formation Guide

Post by XJF on Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:05 pm

zzz1998 wrote:
XJF wrote:
Xcalibre wrote:Is there a psycho creation with DEA?
The 16bp Scaled Chimera does, as well as the 30bp Shocking Collosus from The Decisive Path

Shocking Colossus is DED not DEA.
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Re: Formation Guide

Post by Horg on Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:10 pm

Using the wrong bestiary :-P

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Re: Formation Guide

Post by ryesteve on Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:50 pm

In your party calc, what exactly is "team efficiency"?

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Re: Formation Guide

Post by Horg on Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:18 pm

ryesteve wrote:In your party calc, what exactly is "team efficiency"?

equation is ((Total Attack * 1.1) + Total Defense + Total Health)/Total BP then its divided by 100 for a more manageable number. The basic concept is to give you the best stats for your BP use, higher the efficiency the...more efficient. It uses your party's stats with skills and clan bonus (in combat).

Ive gotten the question a few times so I updated it in the sheet itself.
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