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[Finished]Stay or Leave?

Post by NordicAscendant on Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:40 pm

I've been enjoying DS up until the trading market update, much like many others. While it has its perks, the market isn't complete and needs a lot of improvement. And now progs are untradable (at least for this event). I've sold nearly everything of value I have for EP before prices dropped, so the question is: do I leave the game, or stay and make another team? I still enjoy the game a bit (although I can't see myself spending a cent after what they have done with it), but I'm not sure the future of it. The value of whatever I buy could drop drastically like it has been, the game could be discontinued, etc.

A bit of where I am trading wise:
Hungering Centaur+m20 (150-170) (Selling for EP/team member)
Beast Princess+m20 (Picked it up for 225, could be 250+?) (Would be for team if I stay)
404 EP

Any suggestions for me and others in similar situations? As well as speculation/observations of the current and future state of the game that could also help. Thanks.


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Re: [Finished]Stay or Leave?

Post by FrankF on Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:39 pm

NordicAscendant wrote:I've been enjoying DS up until the trading market update, much like many others. While it has its perks, the market isn't complete and needs a lot of improvement. And now progs are untradable (at least for this event). I've sold nearly everything of value I have for EP before prices dropped, so the question is: do I leave the game, or stay and make another team? I still enjoy the game a bit (although I can't see myself spending a cent after what they have done with it), but I'm not sure the future of it. The value of whatever I buy could drop drastically like it has been, the game could be discontinued, etc.

Any suggestions for me and others in similar situations? As well as speculation/observations of the current and future state of the game that could also help. Thanks.

As someone else said earlier, the trade market is better than the previous system for low and medium-level players.  It's easier now to get a fair price for a card and there's a lot more variety.  The limited number of trades doesn't really impact casual players.  So that actually bodes well for the long-term health of the game, IMO.  Plus, I expect the trade market to improve over time.  You can see them fixing bugs relatively quickly.  Hopefully new features like searching in buyouts, searching only for trades you can make, and fixing the annoying 50-trade limit on EP trades will come shortly. 

I would expect that cards will continue to drop in price over time.  The trade market really seemed to accelerate this, but there is a limit to how low some cards can go.  That said, you have to expect that every card is a depreciating asset and limit your inventory accordingly.  I find it an interesting example of just how crushing deflation can be.  Thankfully, there's a known solution -- engineering a level of inflation (just like the BOJ is currently trying to do...).  If ATeam can get this right, it would help a lot.

One other data point: I'm doing the current event using only regen energy.  I'm currently ranked about 20K and have been since day 1.  So there are still at least 20K active players.  Maybe double that number to include casual and lower-ranked players who waste some energy because they're not on 24/7.  That compares reasonably with previous estimates of 30-50K based upon entries in the summoner grand prix with 1 C monster (30K last time, 50K the time before).  What that means in terms of ATeam revenue is unclear, but there does not seem to me to be a mass exodus just yet.

All that is a wordy way of saying: I have no idea what you should do.  I expect ATeam to keep DS alive as long as it's profitable for them, and I see no evidence that it's not at this point.  All I can do is keep playing until it's no longer fun.  Personally, I'm enjoying the trade market.  I find it easier to make EP with the trade market than previously via auctions.  But YMMV.

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Re: [Finished]Stay or Leave?

Post by NordicAscendant on Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:47 am

I'm well aware that prices keep decreasing. That's something that's usually bound to happen. And while I want to hope that Ateam will fix the bugs and improve the market, I don't want to be disappointed. As we all know. hey created a new, very similar game right near the release of the trading update, which makes them appear to want to start anew rather than fix what is needed in the original.

That aside, the trade market has ups and downs. I've profited several hundred ep in addition to quickly selling my monsters, all due to the convenience and advantages. But it's rather clunky and doesn't make it 'fun' to profit, if you can understand. But I shouldn't be one to complain.

Anyways, I appreciate your help. While I see people quitting left and right on the forums, this makes up only a horribly minute part of the game, so I agree that the game is stable enough, if only in the area of Ateam's profit.

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Re: [Finished]Stay or Leave?

Post by JSOG on Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:50 pm

Well as a clan general of a very active and chatty clan I will say this, 6 members have quit in the past 2weeks. The clan wall which was constantly active with chat and trading is all but dead. 

I have sold off everything. 2000ep worth which would have been 3000 a month ago. I waited too long.

I bought a low bp demon team just to fart around. Cost,75ep.

I play but only a couple minutes a day. Interest in playing has dropped to zero as soon as no trading of progs was announced. Its my opinion, this is what has completely finished the game off.

Even if they are smart enough to reverse this change, it is too late to get many players to return. Ateam has plummeted in top revenue apps. And dark afterbirth has terrible ratings (well deserved) They are feeling it, you can be sure of that.

What shocks me, is the general stupidity of their marketing decisions. Its generally accepted that pissing off your income base is not a positive business practice.

I've been playing LORD OF THE DRAGONS. Great game, very similar to the old ds. No need to spend at all. I'm level 139, having a blast, and not a dime spent. Check it out, it will surprise you.

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Re: [Finished]Stay or Leave?

Post by Ologolos on Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:21 pm

JSOG wrote:I've been playing LORD OF THE DRAGONS. Great game, very similar to the old ds. No need to spend at all. I'm level 139, having a blast, and not a dime spent. Check it out, it will surprise you.

Going to have to check this one out...

As to the original post, I'm staying. I still enjoy the artwork in the game, and have yet to find another game that captures my attention in the same way as DS.

However if you've lost all that you enjoy while playing this game, then you should quit. I know it's hard to accept in simple terms, but I promise in the log run you'll look back on your decision and say "what was I so concerned about? It's only a game..."

and if you quit without selling off everything and DS makes a miraculous comeback, once again claiming the title of bestest game in the whole universe, just re-download/log back into your account and pick up where you left off.



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Re: [Finished]Stay or Leave?

Post by NordicAscendant on Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:18 pm

Thanks for the input. I'm still enjoying it, so I'll be staying for now. Ateam has also announced that they're going to being giving DS an overhaul, so I'll be looking forward to that. I'll probably check out Lord of the Dragons too. Thanks again.

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Re: [Finished]Stay or Leave?

Post by JSOG on Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:30 pm

I sold 1000ep off. Still have 900 sitting there doing nothing. I'm only still here for my clan mates, we been together on line for years. I don't actually play the game anymore. No reason to.

Burn 400ep to rank for a AA summon that gives me a Sara or taroth? No thanks.lmao Wink

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