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Post by Magickiller Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:30 pm

I remember when I sold my Taroth (from a free summon) for 230ep and 6 monsters valuing over 160ep.

I then bought an Asura+m (skill level's were non-existant) for 100 ep.

I then proceded to go into the top overall chart, where I eventually ranked at 18th overall with a sin demon team of; lord of faith+, child of pit+, Asura+, Devil of the Abyss+ (skill change to dea, which i bought for 20 ep), and djinn+.

What ever happened to the good old times? Now days i could buy the same team for 5ep....

I miss that...
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Post by WorpeX Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:36 pm

Nothing changed except the monsters. For that 1k EP you got for Taroth then you could buy an AA team which would put your into the top overall chart now. This game would suck if the monsters were all the same and never changed...
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Post by rexvein Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:39 pm

ya n i agree n like u have balromg paimon spite n some owesome demon kicker but now they are just worthless shit n now in my vault i have 3 paimon 2 balrog they are just like junk

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Post by applesauce Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:12 pm

^^ make stacks outta them already lol

it would be horrible if the game stagnated and never got new monsters, releasing new, and devaluing the old is all a part of the game. the trick is to balance the speed at which the old stuff is devalued. complaining about this is like complaining that the PC you bought 10 years ago isn't even worth a small percent of its original value, well of course its not, but hopefully u had a job in that 10 years and can buy a new 2013 PC, same thing in game, play the market, rank in events and make enough to buy that shiny new 2013 monster.
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Post by bacsiha Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:20 am

Ep is king
This rule is always right

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Post by The Skill Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:21 am

Why buy then ? what about chrematistic ? Smile

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Post by EdwardStarbuck Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:26 pm

bacsiha wrote:Ep is king
This rule is always right



Yeah but people that say this are turds.

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Post by sel Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:51 pm

And sometimes...turd do say the right thing.

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Post by Fenix00 Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:52 pm


I remember when people didn't use the words "Wow Me" but instead actually wrote what they were looking for.

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Post by overseer07 Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:08 am

EP is king
Wow me
Wow offer
Overpay


All of these people can suck it.

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Post by Exolon Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:41 am

I remember the old days when I bought a Time Void Golem regular for 2EP, and I ended up never using him because I decided on making a Winged Psycho Wyrm Team because I already had some good Wyrms. I ended up spending a ton of EP from buying more Wyrms to upgrade their rank. Little did I know that Psycho Wyrm Teams were horrible, and now I'm using my Time Void again to make an A+ Psycho Team.
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Post by Slinger1 Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:20 am

the day before Kollosus expose the ep hackers: a lot of ep everywhere. so many of them, you could sold your low bp A's for 5-20 ep!


the day after Kollosus expose the ep hackers: ep become
less,less,less,less and less available.
No, I am not blaming Kollosus for this ep shortage problem.
I don't remember if Kollosus was the one who expose the ep hackers or it was his guild member..

P.S. :
anyone remember seeing a lot of winners of Hyperion's Sequoia in rank 110-200 are people with b rank monsters with 0w 0l, and still doing eerie breezy plain mission area?

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Post by applesauce Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:26 am

overseer07 wrote:EP is king
Wow me
Wow offer
Overpay


All of these people can suck it.

well i actually dont mind "ep is king". that's fine so long as they tell me what they're expecting in terms of price. but people who simply said "wow me" "overpay" are kinda annoying
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Post by sel Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:08 am

Sometimes those person simply said "wow me" "overpay" are your friends or ally. Go ask them. =P

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Post by Ologolos Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:31 am

i dunno... you almost never have to say "ep is king". You should really be saying when ep is NOT king, as it seems most of the time "ep is king".

but i do agree with setting a price expectation.. to me as a buyer, THAT is king if you expect me to think about bidding any of my EP.
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Post by Noc3 Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:14 pm

applesauce wrote:
overseer07 wrote:EP is king
Wow me
Wow offer
Overpay


All of these people can suck it.

well i actually dont mind "ep is king". that's fine so long as they tell me what they're expecting in terms of price. but people who simply said "wow me" "overpay" are kinda annoying

and to make it even shorter, IMO "overpay" is the only douche-ish enough.
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Post by WorpeX Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:42 pm

I hate when people say "overpay". That isn't how a trade works. I'm supposed to give you something of equal value so that both the buyer and the seller are happy. I shouldn't have to overpay for your shit when I can get the same thing for actual market value elsewhere.
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Post by faithnomorex Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:47 pm

WorpeX wrote:I hate when people say "overpay". That isn't how a trade works. I'm supposed to give you something of equal value so that both the buyer and the seller are happy. I shouldn't have to overpay for your shit when I can get the same thing for actual market value elsewhere.

I too disagree with the concept of overpay, but I do see why people would refuse to take equal value trades. If I'm trying to sell a monster, do I want to take a monster or group of monsters of equal value from you that may be more difficult to sell? No, not really. Sure, the buyer is getting exactly what they want. But it doesn't do anything to benefit the seller. If you can offer something of equal value that the seller can actually use, then it should work out without the need for overpay. Most are just looking for things with higher market value.

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Post by bacsiha Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:14 pm

thats normal in life.

when you offer your monster he DONT NEED to his monster you NEED, even theyre equal value, you must overpay

if he REALLY need your monster, he could accept it equally (i dont think any reason he could deny it)

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Post by sel Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:03 am

Agree with Bacshia....

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Post by EdwardStarbuck Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:02 pm

Yeah, I agree with bacsiha, people offering me stuff I don't need or want for a card because they perceive it to be equal value is fine. But if they really want me to take something that I'm not looking for then it being an "overpay" would be what I want. That way there is an incentive for me trading my card I don't want for your card I also don't want. If you don't care for the overpay then trade with ep only.

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Post by SlayerChef Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:24 pm

You know, I always thought the whole overpay thing was pretty douchey too, but I think you guys just swayed my opinion. Your logic makes sense!

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Post by Nightmirror Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:31 pm

I remember when I first started, and I thought the player I used for referral code was great with an A team at lvl 40. Now that's nothing.
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Post by sokiz Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:37 pm

The ol' infinite dark summons. Best glitch DS
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Post by Armitaage Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:40 am

I remember when bp:ep was 5:1, a pit+m(20) was worth 150 ep, and a Sara reg traded at 180-200, lol. On the subject of overpay, I've never thought of it as douchy, since you would want to be sure that you can easily sell it for less than its value quickly. What I have a problem with is all the douches that point blank refuse to bargain in any way, and lowball you on top of that.
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