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Post by JessicaMD on Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:07 pm

soooo, the dragon wall seems to have become a regular event (like tower) and it's not uncommon to have some AA bosses that you can win from the "endless" portion of it after the two or three fixed ones.

Is there are general strategy for building teams to fight these things?

I've asked around, and it seems to be nigh-impossible to beat these in one go with an A+m(20) team without using at least one sky potion of prayers, tear of recovery (Whatever it happens to be called during the event).

This time; I just borrowed 5 of my boyfriend's wyrms (4AAs, 1A mld), and handily beat the 25bp health up mystic guy they were offering for the weekend after a surprisingly entertaining battle [as a side note... the battle animations are great for these wall bosses! they should incorporate these into more things!]. This morning, I borrowed them again since I was nearing another wall completion, annnnd ran into the purple dbe look-alike sickle subjugate,so I didn't have reallyto use the wyrms, but did anyways and banished basically 1 shotted him which made for a significantly shorter battle than the one for the psycho ice knight health-up guy.

which brings up two things;

1. why is the gap between "power" of these bosses sooooooooooooo freakin big? if they put these bosses in 'classes' like wall 1 boss, wall 2 boss, AAs that are available on endless; 1 and 2 are a joke. It is almost impossible to even lose a single monster against them (when using an A team), I actually clicked too fast and beat wall 2 boss with zero losses to my "main" (my fancy display formation of evilmoth, blue steel, huri, fafnir, tiamut; it's just supposed to look pretty lol) formation. But the AA wall boss was a (like I said really entertaining) extended epic battle even using 4AA winged wyrms in form. They do the same thing with the npc summoner bosses in the events. the "skill" and "advanced" summoners are pathetically impotent against the most average A+ forms, but McFly, oh dear god McFly; no progs, no AAAs or 4+combo AA+m team? not a snowball's chance in hell.

2. is there any sort of cheap formation which can be built specifically to fight these AA wall bosses efficiently? I know some skills can be phased out, like the form I borrowed usually uses 3AA/2A but like you don't need agi for the bosses so I didn't borrow lind, I borrowed a neptune to use in lind's place instead. Also I haven't tried it, but I think they say slumber doesn't work normally in battles; so like agi, you wouldn't use slumber in one of these... But is there a "tried and true" A+ method to just build a specialized boss-killer team? maybe using lots and lots of those 30+bp As? (maybe brutes or demons for psycho since we have lots of highbp ones?) has anyone thought about this? I mean we all get some free "try again" items, but when you're trying to do a bunch of endless wall iterations, and you end up having to use one on most bosses it really limits how far you can get without buying (ewwww) for soul points, or for ep/bp.


P.S. please don't suggest getting my own AA form. If I could, I would have already lol Razz I"m working on it. In the meantime, a cheap alternative just for bosses would be nice!

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Re: endless wall boss strategy

Post by larry378 on Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:52 pm

idk about a good team to do it with. maybe something along the lines of:
weaver/suera/death dancer/airam/silver armor giant

that should have some pretty high stats all-around.

But I think the wall bosses are considerably more balanced than the computer summoners.

it's absolutely true that mcfly is an insane difficulty spike; but consider that...

in wall event
boss:required team to beat in single round
wall 1 fixed boss:mediocre As
wall 2 fixed boss:mediocre As
endless wall AA: mediocre AA/A mix

in tower or wherever else mcfly shows up
beginner summoner: Bs
intermediate summoner: decent Bs
advanced summoner: mediocre As
skill summoner: 'established' As (i.e. your covert crawlers probably won't win here, but your cookie-cutter sin/psy demons, or covert beasts WILL)
McFly: AAA/AA or good 5AA multi combo & good skill ('lowbp unskilleds need not apply') [or prog]

The wall is really much much more gradual in terms of its difficulty curve

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Re: endless wall boss strategy

Post by DevilJin6Six6 on Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:02 pm

Swap in your Evilmoth+M(20) for DCC+M(20) in the Psycho demon team since agility doesnt really matter. I beat the Kracken with it.


Whoever it was that has the Current demon switched to IPD and the 5xcombo psycho demon team gave me this idea. That is the best A team in the game...

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Re: endless wall boss strategy

Post by JessicaMD on Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:32 pm

larry378 wrote:

The wall is really much much more gradual in terms of its difficulty curve

I see what you mean!

the brute team sounds nice, I would only need suera, airam and sag, and I think airam and sag are pretty cheap. I guess it's been long enough that I should finally get a suera for my formation in general lol.

DevilJin6Six6 wrote:Swap in your Evilmoth+M(20) for DCC+M(20) in the Psycho demon team since agility doesnt really matter. I beat the Kracken with it.


Whoever it was that has the Current demon switched to IPD and the 5xcombo psycho demon team gave me this idea. That is the best A team in the game...

That sounds like a good idea! I completely forgot about my demon team, and I certainly still have them! However, I would have a hard time swapping dcc for evilmoth since I use both at the same time. But I guess because of all these formation changes I can probably make an agi-less demon team for stuff like this... who would be best for finishing it off? Assuming I will be using: Leth, Sekh, Evilmoth, Blue Steel for all being high bp or having good skills, who should my 5th one be? I do have typhon and lewd and maybe an arbitration demon somewhere, but who is the best psycho 5th demon member do you think?

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Re: endless wall boss strategy

Post by DevilJin6Six6 on Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:44 pm

The 5x team is Selene, Dawn, Blue steel (changed to dea), Current( changed to IPD), and Evilmoth.

I used sehkmut, SDD, Blue steel(dea), Evilmoth, and Leth.

I dunno what the best of your 3 you have is, I'm unfamiliar with their stats

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Post by JessicaMD on Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:51 pm

DevilJin6Six6 wrote:The 5x team is Selene, Dawn, Blue steel (changed to dea), Current( changed to IPD), and Evilmoth.

I used sehkmut, SDD, Blue steel(dea), Evilmoth, and Leth.

I dunno what the best of your 3 you have is, I'm unfamiliar with their stats


ohhhh I see, a *winged team

That makes sense.

I think I might actually have a current demon somewhere too (I have some misc psycho demons, haven't been paying a lot of attention to the new ones since I switched to brutes a while ago)

idk though, it seems like that's alot of ep to spend on skill changes for an agi-less A team, and isn't selene still stupidly overpriced?

I like the one you're talking about with the sdd.

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Re: endless wall boss strategy

Post by DevilJin6Six6 on Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:20 pm

Absolutely, it is expensive, but it is definitely effective against any other A team. Money/Ep would probably be better spent moving towards the hybrid team

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