Meaning of Rankings ex- AA vs A

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Meaning of Rankings ex- AA vs A

Post by EvelDanKirby on Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:23 am

My apologies if this is not a new question... I read the 'ask questions' thread and did a quick scan for threads addressing my question. I didn't find it.
I have a couple of AAs that I've tried leveling up and at half (like 17 for the A vs 30 for the AA) some of my As are much stronger.
Is an AA AA+ etc. ALWAYS better than an A?
Or is the ranking just about its potential for how strong it CAN get?
I feel like I'm missing something here, something important. lol
Thanks in advance.

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Re: Meaning of Rankings ex- AA vs A

Post by bacsiha on Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:33 am

AA can evolve to 100, AA+ to 150

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Re: Meaning of Rankings ex- AA vs A

Post by B$ on Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:15 am

A = 17/70

AA = 30/100

In the end, the AA will be stronger.
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Re: Meaning of Rankings ex- AA vs A

Post by FrankF on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:07 am

BP is important as well. The ultimate stats of a monster is a combination of their level, their grade, and their BP. The basic ranges of combined stats are:

A: 11,377 (10 BP) to 21,452 (35 BP)
A+: 13,206 (10 BP) to 24,056 (35 BP)
AA: 17,980 (13 BP) to 32,860 (45 BP)
AA+: 26,040 (13 BP) to 45,880 (45 BP)

So an AA+ is stronger than all A+ monsters, but there are some A monsters that are stronger than AAs.

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Re: Meaning of Rankings ex- AA vs A

Post by ryesteve on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:40 am

I think you guys are forgetting the free AA's everyone got. When plussed and maxed, they don't even hit 20k, true?

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Re: Meaning of Rankings ex- AA vs A

Post by Lexang on Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:26 pm

He has included the low bp junk AA in his range of stats.

What shouldn't be forgotton is the base speed values for A vs AA. You need agi(10)? in order for an A to attack before AA.

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Re: Meaning of Rankings ex- AA vs A

Post by ryesteve on Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:49 pm

Lexang wrote:He has included the low bp junk AA in his range of stats
How so, if those AA+'s are under 20k, and his lower bound is 26k?

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Re: Meaning of Rankings ex- AA vs A

Post by Lexang on Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:30 pm

A: 11,377 (10 BP) to 21,452 (35 BP)
A+: 13,206 (10 BP) to 24,056 (35 BP)
AA: 17,980 (13 BP) to 32,860 (45 BP)
AA+: 26,040 (13 BP) to 45,880 (45 BP)

Oh look, junk AA as the lower bound.. unless there are AA with less than 13BP out that I am not aware of?

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Re: Meaning of Rankings ex- AA vs A

Post by Isvarka on Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:42 pm

Lexang wrote:A: 11,377 (10 BP) to 21,452 (35 BP)
A+: 13,206 (10 BP) to 24,056 (35 BP)
AA: 17,980 (13 BP) to 32,860 (45 BP)
AA+: 26,040 (13 BP) to 45,880 (45 BP)

Oh look, junk AA as the lower bound.. unless there are AA with less than 13BP out that I am not aware of?

The 13 BP AA+ only reach 19,998. They don't get up to 26,040. And I think the 13 BP AA only get up to 13,332.

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Re: Meaning of Rankings ex- AA vs A

Post by EvelDanKirby on Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:36 pm

I might be more confused now, thanks guys! lol, but I think I learned two things. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)
The BP tells me how strong its going to get by the end. I'm checking this out and I have As with much higher BP than my junk AAs. However, I can go higher (100 vs. 150 for example) with the higher ranked. Did I get it right?

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Re: Meaning of Rankings ex- AA vs A

Post by FrankF on Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:30 pm

Evel: Yes, grade/rank determines how high a level the monster can achieve (but of course higher levels cost way more gold). And bp determines roughly how strong the monster is within a grade.

Others: I was going by the formulae that were posted a while back. I was assuming that Ateam hasn't broken the formula, but it turns out they did -- all of the 13 BP AAs go up to 6666 in each skill.

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Re: Meaning of Rankings ex- AA vs A

Post by ryesteve on Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:28 pm

Lexang wrote:A: 11,377 (10 BP) to 21,452 (35 BP)
A+: 13,206 (10 BP) to 24,056 (35 BP)
AA: 17,980 (13 BP) to 32,860 (45 BP)
AA+: 26,040 (13 BP) to 45,880 (45 BP)

Oh look, junk AA as the lower bound.. unless there are AA with less than 13BP out that I am not aware of?
If you stop acting retarded for a second and re-read what I was saying, you'll see I've been talking about stats, not bp.

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Re: Meaning of Rankings ex- AA vs A

Post by Lexang on Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:49 pm

Stats are directly correlated with BP. Or did you not know this?

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Re: Meaning of Rankings ex- AA vs A

Post by ryesteve on Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:27 am

Wow, so you're going to double down and go full retard on us, I see...

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Re: Meaning of Rankings ex- AA vs A

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