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Post by Deathblob on Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:22 am

Main Formation: used in missions, events, and attacks on other players

Defense Formation: if set, used when attacked by other players

Reserve Formation: for testing forms

It says "The Main Formation will be displayed on the Battle screen".

I'm not sure how that's going to work, don't I just set a C formation when I'm not active? Then my sekrit defense formation gets used when others attack me?

I think it makes more sense for the app to display the formation of the player you're going to fight if you attack that player. So I don't know if the description is inadequate or if the implementation doesn't make sense.

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by XJF on Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:54 am

Deathblob wrote:I'm not sure how that's going to work, don't I just set a C formation when I'm not active? Then my sekrit defense formation gets used when others attack me?
That's what i'm gonna do lol

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by Jewelguy on Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:29 am

This changes battles big time. You attack someone in the Rankings list with a single C thinking they quit the game and you can get 25 honor points and BAM! you get slaughtered by 5 AA+s instead. No more easy honor point farming. Interesting.

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by Shinzengumi on Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:37 am

Downside, you can't really test your form unless you have direct contact with the opposing team.
Battling random players with crappy mobs on display made it harder.
It forces players to get really good form specially those who runs for weekly's.
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Re: Formation Changes

Post by Deathblob on Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:01 am

And it really screws with species down, if you can't see what you're attacking. Guild down is not totally safe either.

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by Shinzengumi on Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:15 am

Blindspot. -.- Guess players will be now opting for skills rather than downers.

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by Scratch102 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:08 am

I predict this will break the servers and get rolled back at least once. There may also be an uproar from the paying players since the game will be harder to win battles.

I'm just glad this coincides with the current event so I can collect a bunch of carbuncles for my 'main' team.

Player: Oh this guy has carbuncles, i'mma keeel them gud lulz
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Re: Formation Changes

Post by Miggy on Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:22 am

quite honestly this is going to just going to SUCK for new players/casual players (don't spend money/no access to high squads)....

seems like this is just a way to get people to lose more money to elites....

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by Ologolos on Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:28 am

i can see a change to this, kind of like they did with the revenge button, allowing you to see the revenge formation instead of just the lead monster. Something where you can see the defense formation instead of a junk attack formation someone set to dupe you. Otherwise I ain't gonna do much battling... I imagine now all you'll see on the battle page is "carbuncle", "red fairy", "blood blob".

Wonder how/which screen you'll set this up on... even with what i envision to be a poor initial implementation, I'm more anxious to see this change than almost any other they've announced to date.

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by ryesteve on Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:49 am

At least this will put an end to, "You attacked me when I had my prog up... waaaaaaaaah!!!!"

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by Hadarace on Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:58 pm

It would be a really cool idea if they would let you see defense formations, otherwise it is stupid and will cause people to quit.

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by Ologolos on Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:05 pm

I'm a little confused on the "reserve formation"... wonder how it will be set up. Quite honestly, I don't need to "test" forms or combos outside of my main formation... unless they're adding a slew of new combos or bonuses.

I *would* like to have a reserve that I can swap in place of my defensive or offensive formation, though... low BP form or 50 bp form to swap in an out quickly.

i know very few people have the answers yet, but I'm always interested to hear others' thoughts!

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by zzz1998 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:50 pm

The way I understand, the "reserve formation" is just a place to store 5 cards that you don't want sac, gift, sell (I've done it all) unintentionally.

Of course, it does sound like any cards in your main formation can not be in your defense formation, which is not good.

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by ryesteve on Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:52 pm

If that's the case, then you can expect every main formation to be a carbuncle

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by JessicaMD on Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:43 pm

Well, aside from the obvious problem of not being able to tell what kind of formation you're going to be facing when you attack someone (which admittedly is a pretty BIG problem!), there's the silver lining of being able to set your main formation as something which looks cool but isn't really functional

for example, I always wanted to have a psycho wyrm form, but I don't because it's horrible for actual battles and stuff, but now I can have one on my page.

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by Scratch102 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:46 pm

JessicaMD wrote:Well, aside from the obvious problem of not being able to tell what kind of formation you're going to be facing when you attack someone (which admittedly is a pretty BIG problem!), there's the silver lining of being able to set your main formation as something which looks cool but isn't really functional

for example, I always wanted to have a psycho wyrm form, but I don't because it's horrible for actual battles and stuff, but now I can have one on my page.


SSSHHHH don't say it's a good idea!! Next thing you know they will implement a russian roulette formation system: Choose 20 cards and we will select 5 at random for every battle you are involved with! Buy a new roulette hold summon for 30,000 Soul Points to keep your formation set for 30 days!

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by Deathblob on Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:08 pm

zzz1998 wrote:
Of course, it does sound like any cards in your main formation can not be in your defense formation, which is not good.

This would be so horribly broken. But I can't find this in the change description, where are you getting it from?

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by larry378 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:16 pm

Im going to build a combo-less form of sexy and funny monsters for my main form

Lets see...
Carbuncle+m20 slumber
Eifu
The 5m download chick reg (AA hotter than AA+)
Blood blob
And i guess i'll buy a glam to finish the form, or just use death dancer or dawn or something

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by zzz1998 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:41 pm

Deathblob wrote:
zzz1998 wrote:
Of course, it does sound like any cards in your main formation can not be in your defense formation, which is not good.

This would be so horribly broken. But I can't find this in the change description, where are you getting it from?

I am just guessing base on description of Reserve Formation:

Below is what Ateam said:

[Reserve Formation]
This Formation can be used freely to safeguard important cards not in your main Formation



It sounds like you can only put cards into reserve formation that are not in your main, so it is possible that you can only put cards into defense formation which are not in main. Again, I don't know for sure, just guessing, but Ateam has history of executing badly on a good idea.

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by Deathblob on Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:44 pm

I dunno Larry, you might be better off with a couple of these pillow-monsters:


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Re: Formation Changes

Post by Shinzengumi on Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:20 pm

Baiting time!
Clear Wall or Leave the Oldest Post - CHECK!
Use 1-bp Mob on Main Form - CHECK!
Use Best Mobs on Defense - CHECK!

And wait for players to assume you quitted. PROFIT!
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Re: Formation Changes

Post by overseer07 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:03 pm

damn good idea, Shin!

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by XJF on Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:19 am

JessicaMD wrote:for example, I always wanted to have a psycho wyrm form, but I don't because it's horrible for actual battles and stuff, but now I can have one on my page.
I've always wanted a party of 5 Selenes or 5 Victorias.
May actually do it now just for show.

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by larry378 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:51 am

XJF wrote:
JessicaMD wrote:for example, I always wanted to have a psycho wyrm form, but I don't because it's horrible for actual battles and stuff, but now I can have one on my page.
I've always wanted a party of 5 Selenes or 5 Victorias.
May actually do it now just for show.

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5x Victoria+

Would it be competitively viable at high levels? maybe
Would it be 'stylin'? HELL YES

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Re: Formation Changes

Post by XJF on Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:12 am

Haha. Never seen that thread before lol
I don't plan on moving to an AA form anytime in the near future, so who knows lol I may just do it.

Honestly, though. Pricing aside, how effective would a team of 3x Vic+(20) with Selene+(IPA20) and DCC+(20)?
I know I'd lose the combos, but I'd still have guild and clan bonus. And I heard IPA does affect CL/HB/AT. Would this not do some respectable damage with serious point going to badassery?

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