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Post by GS693 on Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:41 am

Please make it stop. I don't appreciate getting 10-20 emails that I have a pm, and finding they're all the same stupud story about the moron who didn't back up his data. ONCE IS ENOUGH!

Sorry, but I reported this forum URL as a spam site to my email provider. Keep it up, and more people will do the same. Getting this URL marked as a known spammer means you won't be able to use the email system as a method of notifying members anymore.

I'm not even going to bother emptying my inbox.

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Re: Spam abuse

Post by faithnomorex on Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:51 am

The admin have noted that there is a bug with the mass-mailing system, and have since disabled it until the issue can be resolved.

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Re: Spam abuse

Post by GS693 on Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:56 am

And in the meantime continue to test on us... it is still spam even if it is from an admin.

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Re: Spam abuse

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Re: Spam abuse

Post by Shinzengumi on Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:59 am

Good day.

Kindly check link.
http://www.ds-forum.com/t10872-til-global-messaging-is-broken

If you find no reason to receive alerts in your e-mail, please disable the option to receive of such in your profile so you can no longer receive e-mail notification.

And PM is already fixed, btw.
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Re: Spam abuse

Post by GS693 on Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:02 am

I see that now. It would be easier to navigate this site if only it was tapatalk compatiable. Oh well...

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Re: Spam abuse

Post by Jewelguy on Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:01 am

GS693 wrote:Please make it stop. I don't appreciate getting 10-20 emails that I have a pm, and finding they're all the same stupud story about the moron who didn't back up his data. ONCE IS ENOUGH!

Sorry, but I reported this forum URL as a spam site to my email provider. Keep it up, and more people will do the same. Getting this URL marked as a known spammer means you won't be able to use the email system as a method of notifying members anymore.

I'm not even going to bother emptying my inbox.



Why would you report this site to your email provider without doing some investigating first/contacting the site administrators? You falsely accused them as being a spam site when it was just a bug. Not fair to the people who run this site.

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Re: Spam abuse

Post by GS693 on Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:15 am

It isn't necessarily false. If you receive the same email/pm over and over, then it is spam, no matter how you define it. If the devs were testing something, they should have stated so in their message, not simply repeat the same exact thing someone else did.

While it is unintentional spam, a notification was NOT sent informing me of so. It was only upon complaining here that I discovered it was a test.

Not only is this forum difficult to navigate via mobile phone (you cannot even log in on the mobile site version! And despite there being numerous patches, this forum is not available on tapatalk last I checked. ) but it is very hard to find anything you really need to use.

So am I at fault for not going through every single thread checking if I have been spammed or not? I don't believe so. I have exactly one response to someone sending me the same message 15+ times: report.

Unless I was told before/immediately after that this was a test, sorry for the inconvenience, etc. Not everyone plays dark summoner on their computer and navigates this site on their computer. I actually believe 90% of us are using iphones/androids to play the game, so making a forum so difficult to navigate for a mobile device is completely insane.

Tl:dr- I wasn't told, I couldn't easily find any announcement threads, Icannot even use this site or make posts easily via mobile device. Therefore, not my fault nor problem if this site gets listed as a spam site. I used to/still run a few forums of my own. This little fiasco is whatw would call an administrative mishap. Sorry to sound like an a-hole but I'm not going to repeat myself, you know my reasons.

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Re: Spam abuse

Post by verbalkintify on Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:48 am

Are you also someone who calls the cops to issue a ticket to someone parking within 5 feet of your driveway?

As for being productive. I got the same messages, replied to one and the admin responded with the cause. Annoying? Yes. Understandable? Yrs, stuff happens.

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Re: Spam abuse

Post by Armitaage on Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:50 am

GS, you have a number of things wrong.

First, this was NOT a test, both instances were an ACCIDENT. Knowing that trying to use the mass pm again to apologize would only result in another round of spam, I chose to make an apology thread instead, in the subforum where most general discussions on this forum are held, the "General Discussions" subforum. When I had sent the first pm, I never intended to pm every member of the summoner usergroup more than 1 time. As you might know, every single user on this forum is a member of the usergroup summoner, so the admins all received the same spam as everyone else. When Zamiel looked at his inbox, he saw the 5 pms and thought I had spammed him alone with it. He pmed me back that it's actually a good idea, and that he will make it a public announcement for me. That is when he unknowingly ran into the same bug, and ended up spamming everyone again. Neither Zamiel nor I ever intended to send more than 1 pm to any user.

Secondly, the threads concerning this accidental spam were in common sense places, where anyone using the forum would think to look for an apology or for an announcement. That you think it is so hard to scroll down a bit in this same subforum is not really an excuse not to look around before doing anything rash.

Thirdly, I myself browse this forum on a mobile device daily and, apart from tapping instead of clicking, I find my user experience to be exactly the same on my computer as on my phone. The trick to that is going into your browser's settings and setting the user agent to desktop. If your current browser doesn't support user agents, I would recommend Dolphin Browser HD, it's what I use, and it's great.

Finally, most of the admins on this forum are really just regular players, not experienced IT professionals, so you would have to excuse them for not being able to send an email to tell you that the spam you received was unintentional. The spam was automatically generated, while an apology email requires someone knowing which place to look for and what buttons to press actually doing that. This is an unofficial, fan run forum.


I understand your frustration with the spam, but I still think that you are out of line deliberately making a thread just to attack the admins over what they discovered by accident and handled the best way they know how. Sorry for causing you any inconvenience, that was not the intent of neither Zamiel nor me.

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Re: Spam abuse

Post by GS693 on Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:34 am

And who said the thread was to attack the admins exactly?

It was to complain about spam. You are taking this personally, and I was explaining my reasons for reporting such emails/pms as spam. Absolutely no motive nor reason to attack an admin other than "Yo. Why the heck didn't you just send a mass email apologizing?"

What prompted this was the fact that two separate people pretty much filled up my inbox. The kneejerk reaction for something that READS as a spam email (seriously, compare that pm you fellas sent me to a "tragic" chain email story... exact same format!) And then no explanation.

You, on the other hand, ARE personally attacking me, indirectly calling me an idiot, etc. I also use desktop mode in dolphin browser hd, and I find it quite bothersome to browse this forum.it is one reason I barely use it anymore. Just because you have no issues at all doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else. Heck, even making posts here is frustrating, the screen keeps vanishing, etc.

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Re: Spam abuse

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Re: Spam abuse

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Re: Spam abuse

Post by Jewelguy on Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:10 pm

GS, do you know how I am replying to this thread including past posts I have made? On my Android phone. Motorola DROIDX2 to be exact. I am using the default browser that comes preinstalled. I also use Dolphin and Opera. Anyway, I have absolutely no problem browsing this fabulous forum. I have no problem posting. The only problem I have is with multiquoting, but that's no biggie. I actually use the desktop site by going to the bottom of the mobile site that has a link to use the desktop version.

Plus, I feel by reading this thread that, in my opinion, YOU are attacking the members who accidentally sent multiple messages to all. I think we should discontinue this thread. Perhaps the admin could lock the thread and we all should forget all this nonsense. And you GS should see if you could reverse your spam site report to your email provider. It was a MISTAKE. Everyone is human. Nobody is perfect. Please realize that and forgive & forget. Sh*t happens. Just look the other way and you'll be fine.


I hope you fully understand what I am saying. Take care my friend.


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Re: Spam abuse

Post by HelloKitty on Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:37 pm

Mobile version of the site works just fine for me too. This is such an annoying thread. Can an admin please delete it?

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Re: Spam abuse

Post by Shinzengumi on Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:03 pm

Settle down guys. Its just a matter of impulse posting and not checking out first even one message and I think TS already got the REAL message on our replies.

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