Demon A+ formation with agility(20) OR low BP AA+ formation

I was thinking about creating a low bp AA+ formation consisting of:
Vlad
Adan
Demon of Ruin
Explosive Demon
Venus dragon

Currently my formation is old demon setup
Balrog
asura
smite
kag
Pit

However i did not know that agility(20) is faster than a AA until recently...


SO my question is: would it be worth it to still get vlad+ adan+ venus+ and finish low bp AA form. OR just stick with what i got?

Any help on this would be appreciated I don't want to waste ep/trades on monsters that will just be worst.....

Short answer is: u have a party calculator at the top of the page, actually
here u go [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] . Experiment with it and see the stats. However some monsters in your cheap AA+ form have no skill/weaker skill (dodge) so that would need some investments like a skill change spirit that doesnt come cheap. As for the pure stats the AA+ team gives check the calculator.

Or u can go hybrid AA+/A+ keeping agi most importantly and w/e skill u need. Check the calculator for stats.

take a look at:

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for a few easy cheap AA/A combos, and cheap full AA

in general a decently built and skilled AA/A hybrid team will beat ANY A team(20)

mewantcookies wrote:Short answer is: u have a party calculator at the top of the page, actually
here u go [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] . Experiment with it and see the stats. However some monsters in your cheap AA+ form have no skill/weaker skill (dodge) so that would need some investments like a skill change spirit that doesnt come cheap. As for the pure stats the AA+ team gives check the calculator.

Or u can go hybrid AA+/A+ keeping agi most importantly and w/e skill u need. Check the calculator for stats.

JessicaMD wrote:take a look at:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

for a few easy cheap AA/A combos, and cheap full AA

in general a decently built and skilled AA/A hybrid team will beat ANY A team(20)

Thx for replies guys, however that link in first post took me to a blank bestiary page. and the second one was nice... but does not really help me out with my problem...

If i were to to do a hybrid team, i would need AA demons (pit+m(20) ) and only have 2 atm, most others are super expensive (and the 3rd low bp AA demon is the ally event one, that i'm sure would be very hard to come by). Any suggestions tips or help would be appreciated ^^

Anyway thx guys, i suppose that you 2 helped me come to the conclusion that I must either stick with A+ squad, or go hybid.

Miggy wrote:
If i were to to do a hybrid team, i would need AA demons (pit+m(20) ) and only have 2 atm, most others are super expensive (and the 3rd low bp AA demon is the ally event one, that i'm sure would be very hard to come by). Any suggestions tips or help would be appreciated ^^

Anyway thx guys, i suppose that you 2 helped me come to the conclusion that I must either stick with A+ squad, or go hybid.

which two AA demons do you have? adding an explosive demon or any of the dea ally summon ones to two for a net of 3 wouldn't be altogether bad

Generally speaking; an effective AA/A hybrid can beat any and all A teams consistently and decisively.

What you need to build an effective hybrid can be looked at like this;

species combo
agi
minimum of 2 useful skills (ipd/dea/ipa/ded , possibly hp up)
agility
at least THREE AAs total (up to two 'low bp skill-less' must be backed
up by ONE 'heavy' (30+bp), multiple 25-30 skilled bps if you're not
using too many 20-s)


building 'real' 5AA teams is somewhat different, but if you follow the guidelines above; no A-team will be able to touch your form.

anyways; what AAs do you have? with more information; better advice can be given.

larry378 wrote:

anyways; what AAs do you have? with more information; better advice can be given.

Atm only crappy explosive demon x2, and demon of ruinx2 (was planning on evolving them) I don't have a heavy AA, ( since im guessing just a reg is going to be 100ep+ and i would want/need 2 of them.... i don't have that kind of EP) I was planning on getting a calamity krups (16bp ally inv AA demon with DeA ) however just looking at auction people wanting more ep for them then some do for a f'ing 30bp AA ><

Miggy wrote:

Thx for replies guys, however that link in first post took me to a blank bestiary page.
.

U have different cells on the bottom row, one of them sais "party calc". but u can try this [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] , it might be easier for u, check for party builder.

Miggy wrote:

larry378 wrote:

anyways; what AAs do you have? with more information; better advice can be given.

Atm only crappy explosive demon x2, and demon of ruinx2 (was planning on evolving them) I don't have a heavy AA, ( since im guessing just a reg is going to be 100ep+ and i would want/need 2 of them.... i don't have that kind of EP) I was planning on getting a calamity krups (16bp ally inv AA demon with DeA ) however just looking at auction people wanting more ep for them then some do for a f'ing 30bp AA ><

hmmm, that may not be the best start for an AA demon team...all those are good "fillers" just like hall cast is a good filler if you're building a psycho creation team, or the planet dragons are good fillers for winged wyrm teams, but you wouldn't really build a formation around them...

If you're dead set on getting started with AA demons you could get some of the cheaper higher bp ones like taroth and odin, then use one your demon of ruin (since critical is a bit better than dodge imo) and back those three up with pit and... an asura or kag? so that you have 3AA/2A, species combo, and dea/ipa/agi or dea/did/agi(and kag is stronger than asura)

JessicaMD wrote:
hmmm, that may not be the best start for an AA demon team...all those are good "fillers" just like hall cast is a good filler if you're building a psycho creation team, or the planet dragons are good fillers for winged wyrm teams, but you wouldn't really build a formation around them...

If you're dead set on getting started with AA demons you could get some of the cheaper higher bp ones like taroth and odin, then use one your demon of ruin (since critical is a bit better than dodge imo) and back those three up with pit and... an asura or kag? so that you have 3AA/2A, species combo, and dea/ipa/agi or dea/did/agi(and kag is stronger than asura)

Thx for the help , however curious would it really be better to have a AA demon of different guild thats higher bp, than to have lower bp AA's of same guild? how much does guild bonus affect the formation?.....

mewantcookies wrote:Short answer is: u have a party calculator at the top of the page, actually
here u go [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] . Experiment with it and see the stats. However some monsters in your cheap AA+ form have no skill/weaker skill (dodge) so that would need some investments like a skill change spirit that doesnt come cheap. As for the pure stats the AA+ team gives check the calculator.

Or u can go hybrid AA+/A+ keeping agi most importantly and w/e skill u need. Check the calculator for stats.

Ok i finally found the party calculator.... those tabs at the bottom aren't very noticeable.... someone should say that's were they are when you open link XD
Thx for showing me this might be able to answer question to my previous post

I'm not 100% sure on your question, however if you do decide to go with the AA,
I have Alan, Exp Dem, and Vlad (not using them) if you want to trade for some wyrms.

Miggy wrote:I was thinking about creating a low bp AA+ formation consisting of:
Vlad
Adan
Demon of Ruin
Explosive Demon
Venus dragon

Currently my formation is old demon setup
Balrog
asura
smite
kag
Pit



However i did not know that agility(20) is faster than a AA until recently...


SO my question is: would it be worth it to still get vlad+ adan+ venus+ and finish low bp AA form. OR just stick with what i got?

Any help on this would be appreciated I don't want to waste ep/trades on monsters that will just be worst.....

It depends who your hoping to win against, A+ teams, hyrbrid teams or AA.

If you can get a adan+m20 into your form, then with vlad+m20, then asura or haddu+m20, pit+m20 and a spite or cannon+m20, prefereably AA is pretty decent actually. Against A+ teams you always attack first and win, and hybrid teams with no hp up, your hp up is going to make your monsters non- one shottable, which could lead you to win by round 5.