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Psycho Creations vs Non Winged Brutes

Post by madman5809 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:39 am

Hey guys I have currently been working on my creation team which is Hall cast + Nyar+ Seeker + GDW+ and Shocking Colossus. I was wondering though before I max their skills (already maxed level ) if I should stick with it or change to non winged brutes. I havnt been paying much attention to the brutes released and I've heard they have some good ones. So are brutes now better than creations? I realize I have AA creations but that's because their cheap compared to brute AAs and I have the best A+ Demon team so I'm not worried about it.

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Re: Psycho Creations vs Non Winged Brutes

Post by Patchouli on Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:12 am

Tyr brutes went on a spree with tlon, ast, and the plethora of A ranks, including an upgrade to IPA card, but they're all quite expensive though as you have said. For a decent team you'd need hermit elf and daji/braize both of which are quite pricy. Creation has dtc and the new AA (drawing a blank) both of which are quite powerful.

Something to consider though is that ast and tlon are the two highest defense cards in the game barring AAA so ipd/dea along with any down is just that much more powerful. Whether it's worth the sacrifice of having a garbage agi monster is beyond me...haven't had enough time to complete my brute hybrid.

Basically, since you already have a start on creation, you might as well complete the team. The AAs you got now won't give you much ep considering what you'd need to swap formations.

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Post by JessicaMD on Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:22 am

you could go for an AA/A psycho demon team?

kotone and taroth are both pretty cheap (I saw a taroth for 20ep yesterday)
also with one of the new 15/16bp psycho demons hurricane and the ally summon one. You can back them up with sekh or leth (IPA or DED) and DCC. I think that would be definitely better than your current formation.

My problem with the psy AA brutes is that tlon is like the only one which is reasonably affordable. the rest are event/rare.

Kotone/Taroth/Ally Summon Demon/Sekh or Leth/DCC

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Re: Psycho Creations vs Non Winged Brutes

Post by Armitaage on Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:37 am

actually, jess, i wouldn't advise running taroth and ally summon in the same form, unless one or the other is skill changed, lol. i'd go for kotone, taroth, sekh, leth, and dcc for a reasonably affordable AA/A hybrid whose stats are halfway decent

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Post by madman5809 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:21 pm

What ally summon demon are y'all talking about? aside form the demons my original question was creations vs brutes. Would my creation AA/A+ hybrid team be worth keeping or would it be a better idea to go ahead an invest in brutes? I have been working on getting AA+'s for my demon team but as it already has pretty high stats I am fine with leaving it where it is. I never plan on spending any money on this game so my progression into AA teams will be slow if it ever happens. AA's are redicously expensive so most of the time I am fine with staying with A+ teams as they already provide me with what I need. Like I said before I have rot and Nyar because they are cheap and could probably get a Fate Colossus pretty soon after I maxed out the teams skills but I don't know if it would be worth scrapping the team and switching to brute because I know that WWE/Lance/Inos/Weaver/Suera would top out around 50k Att which isn't as good as the hybrid creation team I have but they also haven't shown much love to the creations lately other than shocking and it has really low attack though it is an upgrade from SSC. I just don't want to invest to much in creations and then they become obsolete to brutes.

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Post by JessicaMD on Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:30 pm

madman5809 wrote:What ally summon demon are y'all talking about? aside form the demons my original question was creations vs brutes. Would my creation AA/A+ hybrid team be worth keeping or would it be a better idea to go ahead an invest in brutes? I have been working on getting AA+'s for my demon team but as it already has pretty high stats I am fine with leaving it where it is. I never plan on spending any money on this game so my progression into AA teams will be slow if it ever happens. AA's are redicously expensive so most of the time I am fine with staying with A+ teams as they already provide me with what I need. Like I said before I have rot and Nyar because they are cheap and could probably get a Fate Colossus pretty soon after I maxed out the teams skills but I don't know if it would be worth scrapping the team and switching to brute because I know that WWE/Lance/Inos/Weaver/Suera would top out around 50k Att which isn't as good as the hybrid creation team I have but they also haven't shown much love to the creations lately other than shocking and it has really low attack though it is an upgrade from SSC. I just don't want to invest to much in creations and then they become obsolete to brutes.

well, in terms of AAs, I'm pretty sure brutes>creations

hence the price difference


Armitaage wrote:actually, jess, i wouldn't advise running taroth and ally summon in the same form, unless one or the other is skill changed, lol. i'd go for kotone, taroth, sekh, leth, and dcc for a reasonably affordable AA/A hybrid whose stats are halfway decent

I know about the DEA overlap, but the dea ally summon is 16bp while the decisive path lap reward one hurricane is 15bp. so... yeah it's not a huge difference, but I think the 16bp is a good little placeholder until you can get the more expensive AA psy demons.

As long as they are arranged so that the right one's skill is taking effect It shouldn't be any different than using a cast for creations or a planet for wyrms.

Also I thought that to go AA/A there was a hardline minimum of 3AA monsters so that the combo losses are recouped


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Re: Psycho Creations vs Non Winged Brutes

Post by Armitaage on Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:46 pm

the "hardline" minimum is considered to be two AA/+s, not three, lol. while atk suffers a bit, the AA+s in question still have a respectable atk, and they have much higher def and health, so they're harder to kill, and get more chances to whack at your opponent's monsters before they can even start their turn, making mincemeat of their team.

as for investing in creations vs A+ brutes, there's no use pretending otherwise, tyranny's chief two teams are demons and brutes, though creations certainly are a solid choice. personally, i'd invest in neither creations nor brutes, and just go full bore demon, but then i AM a demon already *cackles evilly*

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Post by JessicaMD on Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:14 pm

hmm... I always thought it was 3 for some reason lol

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Re: Psycho Creations vs Non Winged Brutes

Post by Patchouli on Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:04 pm

Sorry just remembered if you're on a budget Adan is super cheap and will give you HP up which is essential for AA+. Sure you break guild combo but the 40% will outweigh that by miles. Looking at the other tyr teams you got crimson dragonoid and Isaac and you know how much they're going for if you're lucky enough to come across someone selling either.

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